Is the EV transformation of the market over hyped ?

Terryallan wrote:

Reisender wrote:

Terryallan wrote:

Reisender wrote:

danrclem wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

Reisender wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
So what happens when there are more than a couple people charging their EV's? No one seems to think that will ever happen, and they'll be able to just drive right up and plug in. When was the last time you had to wait at a gas station to fill up, and that only takes a couple minutes to do. What happens when the average "fill up" takes 30 minutes?

Oh yeah, I forgot: "They'll be lots more charging stations". Riiiiiight.

I’m probably not understanding what you are getting at. So yes. There will be more charging stations. A new DCFC location opens up about every week or two in our area. Usually BC hydro puts them on the app as “coming soon” and they appear as a wrench. About 6 months later they broadcast a message on the App that they are live. Three years ago there were like 20 DCFC’s in the province. Now there are over 120 with lots more coming. It will be an ongoing thing. Most people charge at home or work but DCFC’s are needed for road trips.

My point is that every one says "Just stop and get a bite to eat or shop a bit until the car is charged up". What if there's 2 people ahead of you, each takes 20-30 minutes, so that's an hour before it's your turn, and now you've spent 1 1/2 hours getting "refueled". What do you do for that amount of time.

I'm sure there are more charging stations, but there are tons more gas stations, and people still wait inline, but the wait time is measured in minutes, not hours. And since this is an RV forum, we are talking about traveling where you may not be able to charge up at home, and the campground may not be set up to do that either. So you "fuel up" on the road. Hence my question about what you do when you can't immediately pull up to the charger.

Exactly. How many vehicles can fill up with fuel at a station that has 12 pumps in one hour. How many vehicles can be charged at a station that has 12 chargers in one hour. I don't know the answer but I bet there's a big difference in numbers.

I guess. But then again. EV’s rarely need a charge station that isn’t at home. We use a commercial charge station maybe half a dozen times per year. Many EV owners have never used a commercial charger even after years of ownership. Can’t really compare the two. Gas or diesel vehicles have to fill up at gas stations. It’s their only choice.

Proving that you can't take the EV out of town, and so, it is useless to the vast majority.

Again. You seem very misinformed. Why would any of the above “prove that you can’t take an ev out of town”. People take EV’s on road trips routinely. It’s just many people don’t do road trips with their cars. For those people they get very little use out of DCFC stations. Probably the best way to get informed is to go for a test drive in something like a model 3 AWD.

Actually it is you that is misinformed. In the South. We travel in motorized vehicles. We take our everyday drivers on our vacations, We on the spur of the moment jump in to our car and drive for hours to the mountains, or to the beach. We rarely fly on vacation. There is simply no need. NC especially has so much to offer. I can be on the OBX in less than the time it takes to go thru the airport check points, and do realize. The nearest commercial airport is over an hour away. Why waste my time flying when driving is so much easier, and so much cheaper, and I have my vehicle to drive while there.

Even when we go on ocean cruises, we drive to the port, and when we do. We need a vehicle that is not only ready to go, but one that will keep going. and be ready to go when we return.

Just this morning. I had breakfast on the NC Outer Banks, and Lunch in the NC foothills. Had I wanted to. I could have had supper in Boone, or Cherokee. Can I do that with a EV? Nope. But I did it with my truck, and I didn't have to stop and get gas, and I didn't have to let it charge overnight, and it still has 200 miles to go before it needs fuel. Also remember. We have few large cities. It is generally anywhere from 15 to 50 miles between towns.

If I took a test trip in a EV. They would have to come and get it when the battery died.

Thing is. I can't have my life LIMITED by a short range vehicle. I will not have my lifestyle dictated by the short comings of a vehicle. EVs plug in. that is their only choice. And really long drop cords are expensive.

Now don't get me wrong. When, and IF they ever improve a EV to the point it will do what a ICE will do. Then I'll take a look at it. But that is a long way off. And unless a person wants to stay home. The current crop. Just don't cut it. Still an intown car.