Joining the eco boost club
Barring a dealer reneg, I’ll be joining the Eco Boost club in the morning with a 2018 Max trailering F150. After much careful deliberation, I couldn’t make the F250 fit my circumstances. Y’all feel ...
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What I mean by that, is once you start towing at 80% of its ratings, which is over 10k lbs, that engine is going to be singing a high note. That won't hurt anything, but it has towing capacity higher than the EB, weighs more, while producing its torque and horse power at a higher engine RPM.
It will handle the 10Klbs load better than the EB, but not pull it better.
I would like Fast Lane Truck to do a stopping test and an Ike Gauntlet comparing the Gas F250 versus the HDPP F150. EB, 6.5 box pulling a 10k load.
There will be a difference, but I'm betting there won't be a huge difference.
The F150 can stop better than the F250 when not towing, and I wouldn't be surprised if it stop shorter or not much longer than the F250 with a 10k load behind it.
This is exactly what I mean by keeping it real. Why on earth would you assume that an F150 would stop faster than the
F250 towing the same weight? Part of the reason the F250 has a higher tow rating is it's braking ability.
By your logic, a 6.7l F250 should be a better at towing 10k lbs then my 6.7l F450 because it's lighter, has better power to weight ratio, and can probably stop faster when empty.
I can assure you, it's not.
I've seen the HDPP F150's in action locally. I'm in construction and a couple of my subcontractors have them. Like I said, nice trucks for a half ton and I've considered using one as a daily driver.
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I used the terms, "I'm betting", "I wouldn't be surprised", not "it will", "it can", because I don't know and was only wondering and curious.
I made two distinct comments about the vehicles, I said the F250 will handle the 10klbs load better than the HDPP F150, but the HDPP will pull it better.
I said this about the F250 handling the 10klbs load versus the HDPP: There will be a difference, but I'm betting there won't be a huge difference.
You have tons of testimonials about the "night and day" experience going from an old inadequate 1/2 ton to a new 3/4 ton, but I've never heard anyone saying there was a night and day experience going from their newer HDPP to a 3/4 ton.
From my perspectives, I look at the HDPP trucks in a class above the lesser Max Tow F150s, due to its stability when towing heavy.
When Fast Lane tested the F150 versus the Titan in the Super Ike, the Titan was more stable versus that soft suspension Max Tow, and that Max Tow was bouncing the whole time. The HDPP truck with ~500lbs more payload, stiffer LT tires, etc, would have been more stable with that 11,000lbs.
In terms of pulling that 11,000lbs, they used the term "mad dog on a leash", as to how effortlessly it pulled, and until they upgrade those 3/4 engines/transmissions, the HDPP trucks are the perfect solution for towing up to 10,000lbs TT.
I still wonder about the differance in stability though.
It will handle the 10Klbs load better than the EB, but not pull it better.
I would like Fast Lane Truck to do a stopping test and an Ike Gauntlet comparing the Gas F250 versus the HDPP F150. EB, 6.5 box pulling a 10k load.
There will be a difference, but I'm betting there won't be a huge difference.
The F150 can stop better than the F250 when not towing, and I wouldn't be surprised if it stop shorter or not much longer than the F250 with a 10k load behind it.
This is exactly what I mean by keeping it real. Why on earth would you assume that an F150 would stop faster than the
F250 towing the same weight? Part of the reason the F250 has a higher tow rating is it's braking ability.
By your logic, a 6.7l F250 should be a better at towing 10k lbs then my 6.7l F450 because it's lighter, has better power to weight ratio, and can probably stop faster when empty.
I can assure you, it's not.
I've seen the HDPP F150's in action locally. I'm in construction and a couple of my subcontractors have them. Like I said, nice trucks for a half ton and I've considered using one as a daily driver.
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I used the terms, "I'm betting", "I wouldn't be surprised", not "it will", "it can", because I don't know and was only wondering and curious.
I made two distinct comments about the vehicles, I said the F250 will handle the 10klbs load better than the HDPP F150, but the HDPP will pull it better.
I said this about the F250 handling the 10klbs load versus the HDPP: There will be a difference, but I'm betting there won't be a huge difference.
You have tons of testimonials about the "night and day" experience going from an old inadequate 1/2 ton to a new 3/4 ton, but I've never heard anyone saying there was a night and day experience going from their newer HDPP to a 3/4 ton.
From my perspectives, I look at the HDPP trucks in a class above the lesser Max Tow F150s, due to its stability when towing heavy.
When Fast Lane tested the F150 versus the Titan in the Super Ike, the Titan was more stable versus that soft suspension Max Tow, and that Max Tow was bouncing the whole time. The HDPP truck with ~500lbs more payload, stiffer LT tires, etc, would have been more stable with that 11,000lbs.
In terms of pulling that 11,000lbs, they used the term "mad dog on a leash", as to how effortlessly it pulled, and until they upgrade those 3/4 engines/transmissions, the HDPP trucks are the perfect solution for towing up to 10,000lbs TT.
I still wonder about the differance in stability though.
