The wife and I are considering replacing the old Ram with a truck this spring. Last Saturday we drove a new Silverado 3500, single rear wheel, extended cab, long bed, 4x4 with the gas engine.The truck drove amazing. Not surprised since the one have now is 19 years old and has 315k miles.What concerned was the weight tag on the door. It showed the GVWR as 10,000lbs and the cargo capacity of 3100lbs. Both seemed pretty low for a 3500 series truck. Looking at the Chevrolet website it looks at thou the 10,000lbs GVWR is standard, but you can get 11,000lbs as an option. The website doesn't say what the difference is between the two other than the 11k deletes the tire pressure monitoring system.The dealer I was at wasn't any help either.Anyone here know what the difference is between the 10k and 11k GVWR ratings?

I dont know about Chevy, but on the Fords, the difference is mostly how much you pay in taxes. Many states base part of the taxes on the load carrying capacity. The differences between an F250 and F350 SRW are the badge on the body, the sticker on the door, and maybe the tires, *maybe*. The drivetrain, axles, frame, everything is the same. Add the camper package to an F250, and you have the equivalent of an F350+.The big payload difference comes on the DRW package.I got all freaked out about the low payload on my F250. Then reading comments here and around the net, realized the GVWR and payload are mostly limited by tires. The important thing to check is the front and rear axle weight limits. Tires are usually the limiting factor.

Mote wrote:The wife and I are considering replacing the old Ram with a truck this spring. Last Saturday we drove a new Silverado 3500, single rear wheel, extended cab, long bed, 4x4 with the gas engine.The truck drove amazing. Not surprised since the one have now is 19 years old and has 315k miles.What concerned was the weight tag on the door. It showed the GVWR as 10,000lbs and the cargo capacity of 3100lbs. Both seemed pretty low for a 3500 series truck. Looking at the Chevrolet website it looks at thou the 10,000lbs GVWR is standard, but you can get 11,000lbs as an option. The website doesn't say what the difference is between the two other than the 11k deletes the tire pressure monitoring system.The dealer I was at wasn't any help either.Anyone here know what the difference is between the 10k and 11k GVWR ratings?You can get an extremely detailed breakdown of the payload capacity and front and rear axle ratings with the GM Fleet calculator:GM Fleet Model and Option Weights CalculatorThe difference between the 10,000 and 11,000 lb GVWR is nothing but a sticker. It's solely for administrative purposes where some jurisdictions have different licensing, fee, etc. requirements for a vehicle exceeding 10,000 lb GVWR.That truck should have a payload capacity exceeding 4,200 lbs with the Vortec gas engine.

Checking the Chevy wed site with 11000 gvw you lose the side airbags and tire pressure monitoring system. Just a sticker up date from 10,000-11,000. Get the 10,000 GVW keep the Air Bags and TPMS system and add air bags to rear if you need the to level it up some. I work at the Flint Truck Plant we build Reg and Crew cab Chevys. The springs and axles are the same. If you order your truck you can get in touch with the Ft Wayne plant were it will be built and watch your truck go down the line!! I just had a friend in Tue, to watch his Crew Cab Dually Duramax go down the line!! He couldn't get the smile off his face all day!! Said it was great to watch his truck being built!

PFitt wrote:Checking the Chevy wed site with 11000 gvw you lose the side airbags and tire pressure monitoring system. Just a sticker up date from 10,000-11,000. Get the 10,000 GVW keep the Air Bags and TPMS system and add air bags to rear if you need the to level it up some. I work at the Flint Truck Plant we build Reg and Crew cab Chevys. The springs and axles are the same. If you order your truck you can get in touch with the Ft Wayne plant were it will be built and watch your truck go down the line!! I just had a friend in Tue, to watch his Crew Cab Dually Duramax go down the line!! He couldn't get the smile off his face all day!! Said it was great to watch his truck being built!You "lose" the side airbags by default when selecting the 10,800 (SRW standard bed) or 11,000 (SRW long bed) GVWR, but they may be reselected.The ONLY thing you lose is the TPMS, which many people don't like anyway. If you're going to be running with huge variations in tire pressure (maxed out with a camper installed or perhaps even running aftermarket wheels without TPMS, or aired down for off-road driving), having no TPMS is actually convenient.Also, the Vortec (gas) engine trucks have higher payload ratings than the Duramax (diesel) trucks, since the 11,600lb GVWR isn't available with the gas engine (and the diesel adds an enormous amount of weight).

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rider997
Explorer
Apr 17, 2015
NautiqueFamily wrote:
rider997 wrote:

You "lose" the side airbags by default when selecting the 10,800 (SRW standard bed) or 11,000 (SRW long bed) GVWR, but they may be reselected.

The ONLY thing you lose is the TPMS, which many people don't like anyway. If you're going to be running with huge variations in tire pressure (maxed out with a camper installed or perhaps even running aftermarket wheels without TPMS, or aired down for off-road driving), having no TPMS is actually convenient.

Also, the Vortec (gas) engine trucks have higher payload ratings than the Duramax (diesel) trucks, since the 11,600lb GVWR isn't available with the gas engine (and the diesel adds an enormous amount of weight).

+1 - Lost the side airbags when we tried increasing GVWR past 10K. Based on our CC,6L and SLT Sierra Config, we couldn't add them back. We LOVE our new Sierra.... Go for it! It rides amazing (especially for a 3500)...

What was the build date on your truck? I just saw one today with both the AY0 (Air bags, single-stage frontal and thorax side-impact, driver and front passenger, and head curtain side-impact, front and rear outboard seating positions) and JFL (GVWR, 10,800 lbs. (4899 kg)) RPO codes, but it had a very recent build date.
tonymull
Explorer
Apr 17, 2015
I have a 2015 Silverado long bed SRW, 4WD Crew Cab with the camper package. The glove box says 3333 and the door sticker calculation is 3933. You must have an option or two that I don't. My camper is 1750 wet so I have plenty of capacity. Will be towing a car hauler and Prius C in the Alaska Highway every summer so I went over what I really needed. With just the camper and all loaded up for weekend camping, with no suspension upgrades I can hardly tell the camper is back there, except it rides a bit smoother.
Mote
Explorer
Apr 16, 2015
llavaseur wrote:
My 2014 Silverado 3500 HD SRW 4x4 crew cab long bed has a sticker in the glove box stating this information is provided in case this truck is used for hauling a slide in camper #3138 cargo weight

That looks like the same truck we drove. Red and Ready
llavaseur
Explorer
Apr 16, 2015
My 2014 Silverado 3500 HD SRW 4x4 crew cab long bed has a sticker in the glove box stating this information is provided in case this truck is used for hauling a slide in camper #3138 cargo weight
COboondocker
Explorer
Apr 16, 2015
Not sure why the payload should be so low. According to their website the payload for a SRW, gas, double cab, long bed, 4x4 should be 4617. We just got a new Sierra 3500 and love it. Highly recommend.
DWeikert
Explorer II
Apr 16, 2015
rider997 wrote:
TPMS is required on new vehicles with single rear wheels and a GVWR or 10,000 lbs or less. So a SRW truck with an 11,000 lb GVWR, or any DRW truck is not required to have them. GM won't even offer you the option on trucks with a GVWR exceeding 10,000 lbs.

Ahh, thanks.
rider997
Explorer
Apr 16, 2015
DWeikert wrote:
The sticker in your glove box will give you a much better estimate of payload capacity than the door pillar sticker. Just remember the glove box sticker also assumes a 150 lb person in each seat. So for each vacant seat you can add 150 lbs to the glove box number.

rider997 wrote:
The ONLY thing you lose is the TPMS, which many people don't like anyway. If you're going to be running with huge variations in tire pressure (maxed out with a camper installed or perhaps even running aftermarket wheels without TPMS, or aired down for off-road driving), having no TPMS is actually convenient.

I thought TPMS was required on all new vehicles.

TPMS is required on new vehicles with single rear wheels and a GVWR or 10,000 lbs or less. So a SRW truck with an 11,000 lb GVWR, or any DRW truck is not required to have them. GM won't even offer you the option on trucks with a GVWR exceeding 10,000 lbs.
Mote
Explorer
Apr 16, 2015
NautiqueFamily wrote:
rider997 wrote:
PFitt wrote:
Checking the Chevy wed site with 11000 gvw you lose the side airbags and tire pressure monitoring system. Just a sticker up date from 10,000-11,000. Get the 10,000 GVW keep the Air Bags and TPMS system and add air bags to rear if you need the to level it up some. I work at the Flint Truck Plant we build Reg and Crew cab Chevys. The springs and axles are the same. If you order your truck you can get in touch with the Ft Wayne plant were it will be built and watch your truck go down the line!! I just had a friend in Tue, to watch his Crew Cab Dually Duramax go down the line!! He couldn't get the smile off his face all day!! Said it was great to watch his truck being built!

You "lose" the side airbags by default when selecting the 10,800 (SRW standard bed) or 11,000 (SRW long bed) GVWR, but they may be reselected.

The ONLY thing you lose is the TPMS, which many people don't like anyway. If you're going to be running with huge variations in tire pressure (maxed out with a camper installed or perhaps even running aftermarket wheels without TPMS, or aired down for off-road driving), having no TPMS is actually convenient.

Also, the Vortec (gas) engine trucks have higher payload ratings than the Duramax (diesel) trucks, since the 11,600lb GVWR isn't available with the gas engine (and the diesel adds an enormous amount of weight).

+1 - Lost the side airbags when we tried increasing GVWR past 10K. Based on our CC,6L and SLT Sierra Config, we couldn't add them back. We LOVE our new Sierra.... Go for it! It rides amazing (especially for a 3500)...

Nice truck !!!
DWeikert
Explorer II
Apr 16, 2015
The sticker in your glove box will give you a much better estimate of payload capacity than the door pillar sticker. Just remember the glove box sticker also assumes a 150 lb person in each seat. So for each vacant seat you can add 150 lbs to the glove box number.

rider997 wrote:
The ONLY thing you lose is the TPMS, which many people don't like anyway. If you're going to be running with huge variations in tire pressure (maxed out with a camper installed or perhaps even running aftermarket wheels without TPMS, or aired down for off-road driving), having no TPMS is actually convenient.

I thought TPMS was required on all new vehicles.
NautiqueFamily
Explorer
Apr 16, 2015
rider997 wrote:
PFitt wrote:
Checking the Chevy wed site with 11000 gvw you lose the side airbags and tire pressure monitoring system. Just a sticker up date from 10,000-11,000. Get the 10,000 GVW keep the Air Bags and TPMS system and add air bags to rear if you need the to level it up some. I work at the Flint Truck Plant we build Reg and Crew cab Chevys. The springs and axles are the same. If you order your truck you can get in touch with the Ft Wayne plant were it will be built and watch your truck go down the line!! I just had a friend in Tue, to watch his Crew Cab Dually Duramax go down the line!! He couldn't get the smile off his face all day!! Said it was great to watch his truck being built!

You "lose" the side airbags by default when selecting the 10,800 (SRW standard bed) or 11,000 (SRW long bed) GVWR, but they may be reselected.

The ONLY thing you lose is the TPMS, which many people don't like anyway. If you're going to be running with huge variations in tire pressure (maxed out with a camper installed or perhaps even running aftermarket wheels without TPMS, or aired down for off-road driving), having no TPMS is actually convenient.

Also, the Vortec (gas) engine trucks have higher payload ratings than the Duramax (diesel) trucks, since the 11,600lb GVWR isn't available with the gas engine (and the diesel adds an enormous amount of weight).

+1 - Lost the side airbags when we tried increasing GVWR past 10K. Based on our CC,6L and SLT Sierra Config, we couldn't add them back. We LOVE our new Sierra.... Go for it! It rides amazing (especially for a 3500)...

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