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Looks like a nice TT

d1h
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ktmrfs
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Skibane wrote:
valhalla360 wrote:

9 times out of 10 an extra door is a waste of space.


Yep, you really can't use that space inside the door for storage of any sort - It needs to remain clear for access.

Typically, a door isn't as well-insulated, air tight or water tight as a solid wall, either.

Not only does the door itself add extra weight, but now you've also got the weight of a second set of entryway steps.


agreed. that's why we focused on trailers with ONE door and full access to fridge, stove, microwave, dinette, bath, bedroom and pantry via the entrance door with the slide(s) IN. Great for rest stops, and when we want and easy and quick take off on the departure morning, we are hooked up, slides in, ready to go after a quick breakfast.
2011 Keystone Outback 295RE
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Skibane
Explorer II
Explorer II
valhalla360 wrote:

9 times out of 10 an extra door is a waste of space.


Yep, you really can't use that space inside the door for storage of any sort - It needs to remain clear for access.

Typically, a door isn't as well-insulated, air tight or water tight as a solid wall, either.

Not only does the door itself add extra weight, but now you've also got the weight of a second set of entryway steps.

valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
ktmrfs wrote:
Next, usually trailers with similar designs have a exit door in the bedroom for emergency exit in case of fire etc. Looks like this is lacking that which means the bedroom emergency exit is out through a windows if there is anything (fire/smoke) blocking the access to the door.


9 times out of 10 an extra door is a waste of space. If the fire is nipping at my heels, I'll go out the window and deal with the consequences but never heard of anyone ever actually needing to use one, so not a major concern.
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bucky
Explorer II
Explorer II
Of course they are displayed to their best advantage. Who wouldn't?
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eend
Explorer
Explorer
ktmrfs wrote:
depends on what is important to you. For us access to seating, fridge, beds, bath and panty with the slide(s) in is very very very high priority for rest/lunch stops etc. It may not be for you, that is for you to decide.

It's not clear what is accessible with the slide in.

Next, usually trailers with similar designs have a exit door in the bedroom for emergency exit in case of fire etc. Looks like this is lacking that which means the bedroom emergency exit is out through a windows if there is anything (fire/smoke) blocking the access to the door.

There is a reason many trailers with similar designs are on the lot with slides OPEN, easy to overlook what it's like with slides closed.


A panty with a slide!????????
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afidel
Explorer II
Explorer II
chiefneon wrote:
Howdy!

You might want to consider that Keystone is closing some of there plants before by one. Check the link below.

Keystone plants closing

โ€œHappy Trailsโ€
Chiefneon

Affects 300 out of 5300 line workers, they're not going out of business just shuttering overflow plants. They'll open then back up if FEMA has a big order or economic conditions improve. Other manufacturers are cutting production to 4 or even 3 days a week, Keystone is just big enough they can achieve the same kinds of cutbacks by closing entire facilities and running their remaining plants at 4 days a week thus reducing overhead for benefits.
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ktmrfs
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PButler96 wrote:
Never owned one but did own another Keystone brand TT. Springdale is a basic stick and tin trailer, the brand is at the bottom of the Keystone barrel. That's if one believes they have a top of the barrel line. Keystone support after the sale is almost non existent if one is worried about such things. Anyone who pays even close to the number published by Keystone for that POS has rocks in their head.


we've got a keystone outback, 10 years old, 50K miles or so on it, only issue we had was clear coat pealing on the wheels, Keystone replaced the wheels no questions asked, no hassle, along with paying for mounting tires and balancing them.

Oh, and after 10 years I did need to replace the awing fabric, but that was on my own nickel.

A good friend of ours had a springdale for many years. Was very happy with it, he never mentioned any reliability concerns or problems with it, and was pretty picky.
2011 Keystone Outback 295RE
2004 14' bikehauler with full living quarters
2015.5 Denali 4x4 CC/SB Duramax/Allison
2004.5 Silverado 4x4 CC/SB Duramax/Allison passed on to our Son!

TravelinDog
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PButler96 wrote:
Never owned one but did own another Keystone brand TT. Springdale is a basic stick and tin trailer, the brand is at the bottom of the Keystone barrel. That's if one believes they have a top of the barrel line. Keystone support after the sale is almost non existent if one is worried about such things. Anyone who pays even close to the number published by Keystone for that POS has rocks in their head.


You never owned one so...

Just say no to the payload police :C

chiefneon
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Explorer
Howdy!

You might want to consider that Keystone is closing some of there plants before by one. Check the link below.

Keystone plants closing

โ€œHappy Trailsโ€
Chiefneon

ktmrfs
Explorer
Explorer
depends on what is important to you. For us access to seating, fridge, beds, bath and panty with the slide(s) in is very very very high priority for rest/lunch stops etc. It may not be for you, that is for you to decide.

It's not clear what is accessible with the slide in.

Next, usually trailers with similar designs have a exit door in the bedroom for emergency exit in case of fire etc. Looks like this is lacking that which means the bedroom emergency exit is out through a windows if there is anything (fire/smoke) blocking the access to the door.

There is a reason many trailers with similar designs are on the lot with slides OPEN, easy to overlook what it's like with slides closed.
2011 Keystone Outback 295RE
2004 14' bikehauler with full living quarters
2015.5 Denali 4x4 CC/SB Duramax/Allison
2004.5 Silverado 4x4 CC/SB Duramax/Allison passed on to our Son!

Lwiddis
Explorer II
Explorer II
I want access to almost everything during brief stops without extending the slides. This doesn't seem to have that access.
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theoldwizard1
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IMHO, fireplaces are just a waste of space !

valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
Might be an issue if traveling as you need to open the slide to access the bathroom or if you are doing a quick overnight at walmart and can't open the slide, you can't get to the bedroom.

Once set up on a site, looks fine.

There is very little difference in quality between brands. Personally I prefer the aluminum exterior. If you go around an RV park, it's rare to find a 5yr or older fiberglass sided unit without bubbles where it's delaminated.
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RetiredRealtorR
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PButler96 wrote:
Never owned one but did own another Keystone brand TT. Springdale is a basic stick and tin trailer, the brand is at the bottom of the Keystone barrel. That's if one believes they have a top of the barrel line. Keystone support after the sale is almost non existent if one is worried about such things. Anyone who pays even close to the number published by Keystone for that POS has rocks in their head.


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