LT265 x 75 R16 tires recommendation.

I had two BFG Rugged Terrain's go bad, and were replaced under the recall.
I just put a set of Cooper AT3's on, and went on a 4k mile trip to Yellowstone, and I really like them.

I could be mistaken on the mileage duration of the warranty. Did not review purchase paperwork when I made post. Also the sales person at Discount Tire said the Michelin's wear very quickly on the 3/4 and one ton trucks due to extra weight of vehicle and that Michelin uses a softer rubber than most manufacturers for its LT tires. My 3/4 ton does not have the heavy diesel it is a gasser with the 6.0.

I believe that the Defenders have a 50000 mile warranty so you could have the same situation occur again if they only last 36000. I have the LTX's on my truck and am disappointed with them considering the premium price. The sidewalls are cracking all around and won't last another year. They are 5 years old/ 30000+ miles. I know some here get great results with Michelins but I am with many that don't. My cost per mile analysis just as doesn't support the extra cost. The OE Continentals did better and they weren't anything special.

I had a set of Michelin LTX MS2's on my 2010 Chevrolet 2500HD, purchased from Discount Tire. they were around $1250 and had a 70,000 mile warranty. At 36,000 miles they were completely worn out. Tire wear was even all around and rotated regularly.

I went tire shopping for a new set, i was not going to pay Michelin prices for another set of tires with average mileage results. I researched truck tires and had decided to either try Coopers or Toyo's.

My first stop was Discount Tire to what they could do for since they all were at 3/32's with even wear all around and still had 34,000 miles left on the warranty. Salesman did some computing and came back and said he would let me have a new set of the Michelin LTX M/S Defenders for $556 and some change. I did not hesitate long before I said ok install them.

They have been downgraded, as I recall to a 36,000 mile warranty now. Asked the salesman what kind of wear I could expect out of these and he said about the same as your old Michelin's.

If it was not for the warranty, I was dead set never to buy a set of Michelin's for my truck ever again. However, I do like Michelin's on my cars.

Justs so you know -- BFG makes an AT 285 75 16 ... and we have the 285 75 17 on our GM 2500HD truck and it rides smooth and solid. We went up from the 265, and makes a huge difference in ride, very little road noise, and great handling.

Cooper ATP

I have Cooper At3's on my truck and love them. Had 60,000 on my last set and no sidewall cracks.

travelnutz wrote:
Fast Mopar,

Hi Pot, from the Kettle and yes my Michelins are black. However, my truck was made IN Flint Michigan IN the USA by an American owned manufacturer unlike FCA which is Italian owned and run and who makes all their HD pickups and all the Hemi engines that are in them, in Mexico and then imported into the USA and Canada for selling and the profits go to Italy. I thank you for acknowledging and admitting what is true about FCA. Most won't!

All my other vehicles, boats, RV's engines, were also made IN the USA by an American owned manufacturer. As you can see, I truely support American owned and made! You may want to answer that for yourself!

However, my post said "for me" and did not include your name at all or even hint to such. The OP's thread IS about tires!

My tires which I put on my RV's, boat trailers, the enclosed trailer are all Carlisle and were made in the USA. How about all yours, Mister Pot? Unfortunately, I do not work nor have ever worked for or have any connections to tire manufacturers like you do but I do want, demand, and require and will also pay for the best tires for our wheeled items and as Michelin has been head and shoulders above all others we have tried! Until another tire brand proves as good or better, will still be on our trucks or whatever. What's on your trucks and/or other vehicles or wheeled items as that's your choice. Because I treasure the occupants who are in the trucks/vehicle's I own or drive, I will always choose the best available. Not even adding in the well learned fabulous long term wear and excellent traction the Michelins have given me everytime! Cost a little more is actually cheap in the long run and is my choice.

Yes, I will and always do support and purchase American made products from American owned manufacturers whenever possible and when their products give equal performance life and safety for my needs and wants. My long working life was as being an American owned and run design and engineering business and only did work for American manufacturers by choice as I'd see the owner in the mirror every day and knew exactly what he thought every minute!

Just a hint! There's a huge difference between a major purchase such as a truck and just the 4 or 6 tires under it which will need to be replaced multiple times during the life of the truck that sits on top of them!

I'm free to make my choices and you are free to make yours!

Signed, The Kettle

End of conversation! Back to The OP's inquiry tire topic...

Wow. I am truly sorry to have used your time today, sir.

First...WONDERFUL to find you, Peter, and your thoughts on tires !!!!

Add that there is more to it than just PSI vs tire size/type/etc...the rim width also matters... a lot

Dependent or factored by the OEMs min/max rim recommendations (on that, not many understand the ramifications of NOT following an OEMs recommendations), which is a bell curve they establish for the performance/specification they designed & certified to

That the narrow end of of their recommendation will have more sidewall bend-back...that creates more flexing, which reduces the sidewall's efficiency (more heat and higher rolling resistance), increasing the slip angle and a reduction on other attributes of 'that' tire...my kind of desired/demanded tire performance suffers with a narrow rime width

Wider with the exact same tire will have less sidewall bend-back. Less flexing (less heat, higher rolling resistance), less slip angle, etc...my kind of desired/demanded tire performance is up there and now have a rim width 2 inch wider than the OEM recommended 8". Perfect for my driving style

Another attribute to your comment of AF/Mudder/Off-Road/etc vs Highway tread pattern into the sidewall is that the OEMs design the tread to sidewall area differently...generally speaking. There are some whose designs are exactly the same between them.

A true off road designed tire will have the tread area invert to form a cup when aired down to, say 15 PSI. Also, the apparent tire dia changes to something in the neighborhood of 8-10 feet or more (+ 3 meters) with the sidewall bulge to increase the contact width

Why running aired down tires off road above 15 MPH is deadly to the tires longevity

Again, much appreciate your comments !!!!

Currently running Bridgeston Duel Revo LT265/75R16E's on alloy 16x10 wheels and love them after having several sets of Michelin LTX-AT and LTX-MS's

jadatis wrote:
I will show 2 pictures, that show the inpact of treathprofile on howmuch the tire can deflect without overheating the rubber .
Used it to prove that an ofroad( looking) tire must have lesser deflection for savety then a road tire.
snip...


So , besides using experiënce of others here, you can also yudge a new tire yourselfes by the profile.
If you only do on road driving , you better take a normal tire, and no offroad type.
And if do want an offroad type , dont take the agrasiv looking types as the last picture, but the middle type left on the first picture, and use an higher tirepressure for it .
I can help you with calculating a needed pressure for it , once you have one.

Greatings from a "Dutch Pigheaded Selfdeclared tirepressure-specialist.
Peter

Fast Mopar,

Hi Pot, from the Kettle and yes my Michelins are black. However, my truck was made IN Flint Michigan IN the USA by an American owned manufacturer unlike FCA which is Italian owned and run and who makes all their HD pickups and all the Hemi engines that are in them, in Mexico and then imported into the USA and Canada for selling and the profits go to Italy. I thank you for acknowledging and admitting what is true about FCA. Most won't!

All my other vehicles, boats, RV's engines, were also made IN the USA by an American owned manufacturer. As you can see, I truely support American owned and made! You may want to answer that for yourself!

However, my post said "for me" and did not include your name at all or even hint to such. The OP's thread IS about tires!

My tires which I put on my RV's, boat trailers, the enclosed trailer are all Carlisle and were made in the USA. How about all yours, Mister Pot? Unfortunately, I do not work nor have ever worked for or have any connections to tire manufacturers like you do but I do want, demand, and require and will also pay for the best tires for our wheeled items and as Michelin has been head and shoulders above all others we have tried! Until another tire brand proves as good or better, will still be on our trucks or whatever. What's on your trucks and/or other vehicles or wheeled items as that's your choice. Because I treasure the occupants who are in the trucks/vehicle's I own or drive, I will always choose the best available. Not even adding in the well learned fabulous long term wear and excellent traction the Michelins have given me everytime! Cost a little more is actually cheap in the long run and is my choice.

Yes, I will and always do support and purchase American made products from American owned manufacturers whenever possible and when their products give equal performance life and safety for my needs and wants. My long working life was as being an American owned and run design and engineering business and only did work for American manufacturers by choice as I'd see the owner in the mirror every day and knew exactly what he thought every minute!

Just a hint! There's a huge difference between a major purchase such as a truck and just the 4 or 6 tires under it which will need to be replaced multiple times during the life of the truck that sits on top of them!

I'm free to make my choices and you are free to make yours!

Signed, The Kettle

End of conversation! Back to The OP's inquiry tire topic...