Mercedes XCLass
Will be interesting too what they want to do with this. Competition is now the Amarok according too MB. That has now 254hp and 420lbs ft of torque. Japanese are being a little bit agitated. Would not ...
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RobertRyan wrote:gmw photos wrote:
The poster that said: "rebadged Nissan Navara", this is correct. There is an interview with some manufacturer reps on the web that explains the relationship between Nissan and MB on this project.
To Robert Ryan, hey man, I enjoy your posts and seeing pics from down-under, but you are incorrect when you say the new design Navara ( Frontier to us ) is different in size to the "old style" ( 2005 to current ) Frontier.
I have and still drive a 2006 Frontier. I just went to the garage and got out my sales brochure from 2006 and compared the dimensions and specs to a "new" Australia spec Navara. All dimensions are within an inch. In some cases my old version is actually slightly larger than the new.
They are basically the same vehicle, with different powertrains (y'all get stuck with slow-azz small diesels, we get gas motors ) and different sheetmetal.
To the guy that said the rear overhang is too long for good towing, he obviously has not towed with one. I've towed over 50K miles ( my 19' TT or my horse trailer ) behind my Frontier, and it does very well indeed.
Back on topic, I suspect the new MB version will be a niche market product. They'll sell a few, just like Ford sells "a few" of the Lincoln badged F150's. There are always a few folks willing to pay extra for something a bit more unique and expensive.
Do not know where you got your information but Nissan poured a lot of money into the Navara which does not share anything..It will be the basis of the MB Class X but will have a different frame and body pAnels. I can tell you it is physically a lot bigger than the old model.
Nissan has FIVE factories globally making the Navara. It has no relation too your Frontier
Gas ( Petrol) engines were ditched.. Toyota has retired it’s 4 litre V6 none was buying it.
BOB ! Pay attention here. I told you where I got my information. I got it directly from the Nissan website. My "old design" 2006 Frontier is the same size as the Au market current Navara. Look it up Bob, it's on the websites.
Toyota did NOT ditch their gasoline engines for worldwide markets. The current Tacoma in the US market is a new design, 3.5 liter V6 gas engine. This engine replaced the previous 4.0 gasoline V6.
As a prolific poster, if you want credibility, check out the facts before you make absolute statements. The info is easily available on the internet.
As to the difference between the MB and the current Navara, what I read as far as the mechanical differences, it's most suspension tweaking for a more comfortable ride, and better handling. Which ironically ( for this forum's readers ) will likely make it less suitable for towing.
The body panels that are the least expensive to change tooling on ( fenders, doors, tailgate ) will be unique to the MB, but the main body structure ( cab, floorpan ) will be the same. As will the frame most likely.
This corroboration between Nissan and MB makes perfect sense for both companies. Euro companies like to work with each other, and now that Renault largely controls what Nissan does, we can guess that top mgmnt from Renault and MB had a nice long discussion about this project.
Side note: Nissan also build a re-badged Frontier for Suzuki here in the US recently. It was literally just a Frontier with Suzuki emblems. The Equator shared all the same body panels with the Frontier.
EDIT add: In Mexico, Chevy sells three "smaller pickups", the Tornado, S10, and Colorado. All have gasoline engines.
