MotorTrend F150 Lightning Tow Test

StirCrazy wrote:

PButler96 wrote:

StirCrazy wrote:
when a electric can get 500 miles towing 14000 lbs then I will trade in my F350.

Steve

That will not happen until the perpetual motion battery is fully developed, which will allow an EV to tow 18 tons 750 miles on a single 11 second charge, while being the size of a D cell. I fully expect that to be developed by an RVnet member soon.

haha, I get the joke in here but I realy don't think its that far off. I am guesing its the development of the solid state battery that will allow this to become a reality. large capacity for size, fast charging, no capacity degradation from use, and so on. right now they have a working one the size of a nickel, so I would guess 5 years out... but who knows.

Who is they? Mr Roarke and Tatoo?

time2roll wrote:

PButler96 wrote:

StirCrazy wrote:
when a electric can get 500 miles towing 14000 lbs then I will trade in my F350.

That will not happen until the perpetual motion battery is fully developed, which will allow an EV to tow 18 tons 750 miles on a single 11 second charge, while being the size of a D cell. I fully expect that to be developed by an RVnet member soon.

Or the Tesla Semi goes in production. 2024?

Yup. A class 8 only towing 14klbs, would get better range than the weight it’s designed for…
Derp

PButler96 wrote:

StirCrazy wrote:
when a electric can get 500 miles towing 14000 lbs then I will trade in my F350.

That will not happen until the perpetual motion battery is fully developed, which will allow an EV to tow 18 tons 750 miles on a single 11 second charge, while being the size of a D cell. I fully expect that to be developed by an RVnet member soon.

Or the Tesla Semi goes in production. 2024?

PButler96 wrote:

StirCrazy wrote:
when a electric can get 500 miles towing 14000 lbs then I will trade in my F350.

Steve

That will not happen until the perpetual motion battery is fully developed, which will allow an EV to tow 18 tons 750 miles on a single 11 second charge, while being the size of a D cell. I fully expect that to be developed by an RVnet member soon.

haha, I get the joke in here but I realy don't think its that far off. I am guesing its the development of the solid state battery that will allow this to become a reality. large capacity for size, fast charging, no capacity degradation from use, and so on. right now they have a working one the size of a nickel, so I would guess 5 years out... but who knows.

Huntindog wrote:
Yes and probably by a participant on this thread.:B

Nope, won't be anyone here. Probably one of them pointy headed pee-aitch=dee fellas who cain't even pack a wheel barin.:R

PButler96 wrote:

StirCrazy wrote:
when a electric can get 500 miles towing 14000 lbs then I will trade in my F350.

Steve

That will not happen until the perpetual motion battery is fully developed, which will allow an EV to tow 18 tons 750 miles on a single 11 second charge, while being the size of a D cell. I fully expect that to be developed by an RVnet member soon.

Yes and probably by a participant on this thread.:B

StirCrazy wrote:
when a electric can get 500 miles towing 14000 lbs then I will trade in my F350.

Steve

That will not happen until the perpetual motion battery is fully developed, which will allow an EV to tow 18 tons 750 miles on a single 11 second charge, while being the size of a D cell. I fully expect that to be developed by an RVnet member soon.

vern kelly wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWKsT53-hw8

StirCrazy wrote:
wow, what I realy want to know is not the range it can tow at capacity but how far can it go with 2000lbs in the box. might be a nice setup for a small camper.

a buddy of mine finaly got his last month and absolutly loves it. I'll admidt its kinda neat, but for me it would have to be able to get a decient range with 2000lbs in the back to work for me right now, but I would still need my F350 for towing the 5th. when a electric can get 500 miles towing 14000 lbs then I will trade in my F350.

Steve

This link on this forum "camping in an EV always charging" explained a sleeper shell on the Ford lightning. Remember payload is less than 2000lbs for the XLT trim.

yup you should be able to get a ton of older 8 foot and smaller campers that weight less than that. my 1991 10 foot is only 2300 lbs when the water tank is full.

Steve

FishOnOne wrote:
Ford will be soon switching over to Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries. Here's some pro's and con's.

Pros:
Cost much less than lithium ion because they don't use exotic materials. ~10-15% BOM savings for Ford
The iron and phosphate are some of the most abundant materials on the planet
Provides 2-4 longer lifespan compared to lithium ion
Not a fire hazard (Big plus for Ford right now)
No charging rules. You can charge to 100% and drain to 0% with no ill effects

Cons:
As of now the energy density is 50% lower than lithium ion. Could be on par with lithium ion in the future.
Vehicles using iron phosphate batteries are typically heavier due to needing more cells to make up for the lack of battery density

Link

My Bluetti EB55/PV200 Solar Generator kit uses LFP batteries .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWKsT53-hw8

StirCrazy wrote:
wow, what I realy want to know is not the range it can tow at capacity but how far can it go with 2000lbs in the box. might be a nice setup for a small camper.

a buddy of mine finaly got his last month and absolutly loves it. I'll admidt its kinda neat, but for me it would have to be able to get a decient range with 2000lbs in the back to work for me right now, but I would still need my F350 for towing the 5th. when a electric can get 500 miles towing 14000 lbs then I will trade in my F350.

Steve

This link on this forum "camping in an EV always charging" explained a sleeper shell on the Ford lightning. Remember payload is less than 2000lbs for the XLT trim.