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n0arp
Aug 09, 2021Explorer
Lantley wrote:bucky wrote:Lantley wrote:bucky wrote:
I'm with Dodge Guy on this. I also have extensive background with CDJR(F) dealerships.
The newer Cummins isn't the reliability issue, it's all the emission garbage he mentioned. The warranty will cover the cost of repairs but when you are stranded on I10 in the middle of nowhere TX in 100 degree heat with high humidity 2000 miles from where you need to be it doesn't much matter does it? And that's before you find out the part is on backorder with no ETA.
That's why I drive old Ram diesels. I didn't look for a 06 or early 07 because of the TIPM issues. My 05 will last until I'm not towing anymore. I should have kept my first year 24V with the Banks kit. The 75 decibels in the cab under load was the reason I sold it.
If that is your opinion tHat doesn't speak well for Ram in general.
You are giving validity to Devo's claim that Ram's are junk.
I have a 2019 Duramax with 70K on it. No issues so far, certainly never been stranded.
Is Ram building such a poor product that the mechanics don't recommend them?
Our comments were about the emission systems, not Ram. We never saw the diesels in the shop before the emission stuff started piling on. All the manufacturers face the same problem, the OP was discussing Ram, hence our replies.
I'm not sure you can seperate Ram from its emmisions system. While I get your point, the guy stranded in a strange town doesn't want Ram to point the finger at someone else while his truck is in the shop.
Ultimately Ram designed the emmisions system.
It not very reassuring if you are a Ram owner when 2 mechanics state they doon't believe Ram diesels pick ups are reliable....Which has been Devo's point all along.
Not only are they unreliable, but the dealers are unable to fix them once an issue occurs.
I'm not a Ram basher. I tend to take Devo's claims with a grain of salt. I'm really not that brand loyal. The 6.0 PSD disaster chased me away from Ford years ago and I found the Duramax Allison combo. Nevertheless hearing Ram mechanics support DEvo's claim and speak poorly of Ram diesels is somewhat eye opening.
My '15 LML had way more (constant) emissions problems from day one than my Ram (none). I ended up deleting the LML and running a CP3 conversion because I didn't want to be left stranded again.
In general, all the big three make small incremental improvements each year and some of those end up being for the emissions systems. Newer emissions seem to be less problematic than the systems produced a decade, or even five years ago - judging by anecdotal conversations I've seen on various forums and personal experience across three trucks.
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