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weatherhelm
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Hello fellow truck camper owners. Here is what I have 2000 Ford F250 with a Sun-Lite pop up camper All the camper power is from the trailer Plug



the camper power comes from the left front and has this plug. I am going to be pulling a small box trailer with a flat 5 power plug
the whole setup seems a bit crude how should this be wired? a plug inside the box?

Ron Wolfgram
Saint Paul MN
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weatherhelm
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It all worked out great The battery charges while running truck. I just got home from a 6000 mile 13 state trip. everything cooperated except for the weather coming across Montana I bonded with my 2000 F250 and love the 7.3L manual transmission combo. The truck even has earned a name MAX not too origional but I always name my vehicles after dogs I have owned.


Here is Max outside of Bozmann MT Early April



PS: thank you all for the advise on the plug this is a great forum
Ron Wolfgram
Saint Paul MN

weatherhelm
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OK I started this thread I should update it. upon doing further checking I find that the camper battery only gets charged when plugged into 110VAC. The old battery was shot and I have no room for 2 batterys, I installed one 120AH AGM battrey. I wanted to be able to charge it with the truck Alternator.
I wired a 40Amp fuse with 6 guage wire to an anderson plug which goes to a charge relay then to the battery. I am a sailor and had much of this left over from a boat refit. The anderson plug I got on Ebay a bit of overkill as it is good for 100 amps they are quality high amperage connectors



Fuse at truck battery



No picture of Charge relay. It is a m-ACR from blue sea systems it monitors the voltage and closes at 13.5 volts ie: when the truck is running and charging
Ron Wolfgram
Saint Paul MN

Buzzcut1
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Or the Torklift 3 way harness. Plugs into your hitch then splits with one plug for your camper and the other for the trailer

http://www.torklift.com/index.php/products/towing/superhitch-wire-harnesses
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Butch50
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RoyB wrote:
Too bad your 2000 F250 does not have the two trailer sockets sitting side-by-side for the 7-way and 4 way connections. My 2004 Truck and my 2010 Truck are equipped this way... I always hated to have to splice into something already wired up and I usually create problems hehe...

These connections only power up your truck camper or pull trailer safety lights and brake controller if equipped. Some may have a low current 12VDC coming from the truck start battery at these connectors as well. The 12VDC items in the truck camper are powered by its installed 12VDC BATTERY or Inverter for 120VAC items. Shore power connections provides 120VAC to operate the 120VAC items in the truck camper as well as the converter/charger to operate the 12VDC items in the camper as well as charge the camper battery.

This is a GOOGLE photo of the 2000 F350 trailer connectors having the dual connector setup.


This is kinda neat where the 7-way side would feed your Truck Camper safety lights and then your small tow trailer would plug into the other trailer 4-way or 5-way connector.

Don't know how small your tow trailer is but if it has electric brakes mounted on the hubs it will require by DOT a BRAKE CONTROLLER hookup.

Might want to check with your local safety inspection station to get a reading on what will be needed...

ETRAILER is one of the best places to get things like this on-line. They have everything trailer....

Your Truck camper may have some overhang and might require a short extension 4-way/5-way cable for the second trailer connection.

This is GOOGLE PHOTO of a ETRAILER Dual trailer hook-up combo connector my truck has.


just my thoughts here...
Roy Ken


The only problem with the pictured ones that are right next to one another with the flip open covers is if you need to use both of them at the same time you are out of luck. If you lift the flap for either one it makes the other one not useable as you can't open both covers at the same time. I know I had those types on both my 2011 Ford and my 2013 Ram. Really sucked till I added my 7 pin in the bed of the truck for the camper. I needed to pull my boat at the same time as hauling my camper.
Butch

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kiwiiam
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It look like you have a four pin round to the right of the 7 pin. Worth findingbout what that one is for.
Kiwiiam
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AnEv942
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You said 5-pin on the trailer? Does it have back up or interior light?On the ford 4-pin you might want to verify fit.
Picture of our 4 pin 01 f250.

I have nothing that will plug into it-its backwards as far as male/female housing & pins & I have a few different 4 pin flats. One on right is the ford, I tapped the back side and added 'standard 4 pin, on the left to it.

Added a round 4 pin with short pigtail that plugs into the std 4 pin.

I might suggest swapping the trailer plug to 7 pin plug and use bumper (also give room to add). Add 7 pin receptacle in bed for the camper changing it also to 7 pin. With what you have you'd only need 1 matched pair. Id be tempted to rerun a cord from camper if accessible-looks like a lot of tape?
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weatherhelm
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Hey guys thanks for the quick replies. great fourm. just went out to look at the plugs a bit more carefully and what do I find a dual connector a 7 pin round and a 4 way flat



I dont have brakes on the trailer it is a 6x10 box trailer



in which I am towing this 2013 Suzuki DR650 SE



I am on my last month of work until I retire. 28 years same company. 63 years old. I am getting things ready for a trip down south to get out of the cold
Ron Wolfgram
Saint Paul MN

Dakota98
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RoyB wrote:
Dakota98 - Didn't mean to report the same thing you reported. I was just too long winded to get it posted before your post haha... It was hard to see from his photo if he had the DUAL TRAILER CONNECTOR or not...

Roy Ken


Roy,

The more information, all the better !!!

Have a good one !!!
I'm an expert in only one field....I believe it's somewhere in Kansas.

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RoyB
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Dakota98 - Didn't mean to report the same thing you reported. I was just too long winded to get it posted before your post haha... It was hard to see from his photo if he had the DUAL TRAILER CONNECTOR or not...

Roy Ken
My Posts are IMHO based on my experiences - Words in CAPS does not mean I am shouting
Roy - Carolyn
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RoyB
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Too bad your 2000 F250 does not have the two trailer sockets sitting side-by-side for the 7-way and 4 way connections. My 2004 Truck and my 2010 Truck are equipped this way... I always hated to have to splice into something already wired up and I usually create problems hehe...

These connections only power up your truck camper or pull trailer safety lights and brake controller if equipped. Some may have a low current 12VDC coming from the truck start battery at these connectors as well. The 12VDC items in the truck camper are powered by its installed 12VDC BATTERY or Inverter for 120VAC items. Shore power connections provides 120VAC to operate the 120VAC items in the truck camper as well as the converter/charger to operate the 12VDC items in the camper as well as charge the camper battery.

This is a GOOGLE photo of the 2000 F350 trailer connectors having the dual connector setup.


This is kinda neat where the 7-way side would feed your Truck Camper safety lights and then your small tow trailer would plug into the other trailer 4-way or 5-way connector.

Don't know how small your tow trailer is but if it has electric brakes mounted on the hubs it will require by DOT a BRAKE CONTROLLER hookup.

Might want to check with your local safety inspection station to get a reading on what will be needed...

ETRAILER is one of the best places to get things like this on-line. They have everything trailer....

Your Truck camper may have some overhang and might require a short extension 4-way/5-way cable for the second trailer connection.

This is GOOGLE PHOTO of a ETRAILER Dual trailer hook-up combo connector my truck has.


just my thoughts here...
Roy Ken
My Posts are IMHO based on my experiences - Words in CAPS does not mean I am shouting
Roy - Carolyn
RETIRED DOAF/DON/DOD/CONTR RADIO TECH (42yrs)
K9PHT (Since 1957) 146.52M
2010 F150, 5.4,3:73 Gears,SCab
2008 Starcraft 14RT EU2000i GEN
2005 Flagstaff 8528RESS

Dakota98
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Would THIS work better ?

OR maybe this one, Plug & Play
I'm an expert in only one field....I believe it's somewhere in Kansas.

2000 / 22' SKYLINE NOMAD LITE
1998 DODGE DAKOTA / 5.2L= 8mpg.
2006 POLARIS ATV
1500/1200 Watt Champion generator
Yada Wireless Back Up Camera
1998 Dyna Wide Glide
USMC 68-74