payload capacity requirements

TerryandKim wrote:
Nope, I missed adding the WD hitch, so another 100lbs and the tools are in the front compartment of the trailer. Okay so the 1/2 ton, GMC 1500 with a payload of 1947 is not going to be enough is it. I need a 2500 / 250.

Yes, you do need to include the weight of the WDH.

However, the WDH should be able to transfer about 250# of load from the TV to the TT's axles.

Also, whether you're getting "payload" from brochure/internet or from the "Tire And Loading Information" on the driver's door pillar, the number should already include the weight of a full tank of fuel.

Therefore, you estimated weight of occupants and cargo could be:

+870# for occupants and stuff
+100# for WDH
-250# for load transfer to TT
=720#

Then add 900# for tongue weight (13.2% of your 6800# loaded TT weight) and you have an estimated load of 1620# added to the TV.

So, assuming your weight estimates are realistic, you should be able to find a 1/2 ton truck with sufficient payload capacity.

You probably don't need a 3/4 ton TV. If you want one, that's a different consideration.

Ron

Ummmmm, does not the CCC account for a 150 lb driver and a tank of gas ?

camp-n-family wrote:

Nope, I missed adding the WD hitch, so another 100lbs and the tools are in the front compartment of the trailer. Okay so the 1/2 ton, GMC 1500 with a payload of 1947 is not going to be enough is it. I need a 2500 / 250.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you'll find a GM 1500 model that seats 4 and has 1900+lbs of payload. Maybe the old HD edition? I think a 3/4 ton would suit your needs best, might get away with an F150 with the HD tow AND payload package but the are rare.

Yes, the GM Max Tow package will have payloads in excess of 2,000 pounds. If you can find a 6.2L, it'll pull like a freight train.

I pull my 27' TT, with similar tongue weight, and 6 passengers with my Max Tow and it pulls just fine.

OP, keep in mind that when calculating the payload usage, fuel is sometimes not part of that calculation. For example, GM does not include fuel when figuring the payload usage. Just something to keep in mind.

sorry, type, 28'trailer

The trailer was 6804lbs last time I scaled it. It's a 7100 gvwr and 26' trailer.
I'll keep shopping, I'll find a decent 3/4 ton in my price range with the wants and needs we have. Thanks for all the comments!!

Yes a 2500 will be fine for what you're doing. No need to put every item on a scale and log it's weight.

The OP will be happy with a pickup with over 2,000 available payload and disappointed with much less.

lanerd wrote:

TerryandKim wrote:
Hello everyone!
If I am towing a 7000lb trailer (I'm at a 840 - 900lb hitch weight)
The weight of my people and "stuff" in the truck is 970 (two parents, one 16 yr old, one 13 yr old plus 200lb stuff in the truck bed and 100?lb fuel)
The total I'm carrying then is between 1810 and 1870lb. If I'm buying a new-to-me truck am I correct in thinking that I need at least a 2000lb payload capacity??? So I'm looking for at least a gmc 2500 or F250? I don't need to hear opinions on whether GM or Ford is preferred, just trying to figure out my payload reqirements.
Am I thinking it through correctly? Please and thank you!

Ok, I gotta ask. How do you know your trailer weighs 7000 lbs with an 840 to 900 lbs tongue weight? Did you weigh it, or are you guesstimating from the mfg's published weights?

If you're guesstimating....be aware that you could be waaaaaay off. You really need "actual" weights to be making a permanent decision on the vehicle to pull it.

Ron

He has not said the length, BUT from my experience, seing a plus minus 100 lbs on the HW with my old 24' TT was not uncommon, depending upon the amount of food in the kitchen, ie front kitchen model. IF I had some liquids/solis in the gray and black tank, located BEHIND the axels. All of these items can be a factor into how much HW someone has or does not have in the trailer.

I would say minimum 2000 lbs. If the two children bring a friend, I would have 500 lbs for them in the truck payload requirement! so from my perspective, 2500 minimum! 3000 would be very secure, along with some ability to move up to a longer TT if need be, or bikes etc in the bed.

marty

TerryandKim wrote:
Hello everyone!
If I am towing a 7000lb trailer (I'm at a 840 - 900lb hitch weight)
The weight of my people and "stuff" in the truck is 970 (two parents, one 16 yr old, one 13 yr old plus 200lb stuff in the truck bed and 100?lb fuel)
The total I'm carrying then is between 1810 and 1870lb. If I'm buying a new-to-me truck am I correct in thinking that I need at least a 2000lb payload capacity??? So I'm looking for at least a gmc 2500 or F250? I don't need to hear opinions on whether GM or Ford is preferred, just trying to figure out my payload reqirements.
Am I thinking it through correctly? Please and thank you!

Ok, I gotta ask. How do you know your trailer weighs 7000 lbs with an 840 to 900 lbs tongue weight? Did you weigh it, or are you guesstimating from the mfg's published weights?

If you're guesstimating....be aware that you could be waaaaaay off. You really need "actual" weights to be making a permanent decision on the vehicle to pull it.

Ron

Nope, I missed adding the WD hitch, so another 100lbs and the tools are in the front compartment of the trailer. Okay so the 1/2 ton, GMC 1500 with a payload of 1947 is not going to be enough is it. I need a 2500 / 250.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you'll find a GM 1500 model that seats 4 and has 1900+lbs of payload. Maybe the old HD edition? I think a 3/4 ton would suit your needs best, might get away with an F150 with the HD tow AND payload package but the are rare.