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Prepping for cold weather camping

Buzzcut1
Nomad II
Nomad II
I like to camp all year round in all sorts of weather. Winter has its own special challenges. It can be cold, wet, windy or warm depending on where you go. I put together a set up that if the weather turns out too warm or turns bitterly cold I can disassemble or assemble in minutes and doesn't weigh more than a few pounds. Dense foam insulation for the windows and skylights and Fiberglass batts for behind all the hatch door and waste valve compartment. The Fiberglass just stays in place all winter and keeps the cold from finding its way inside, The camper rests on horse stall mats which keeps the bottom of the TC insulated.

I always have flannel sheets on the bed and two different thicknesses of down comforters to choose from when packing up. one that is 3" thick and for really cold trips one that is 6 inches thick

For the windows and skylights I wanted something simple that would stay in place without tape or adhesives and was next to indestructible, lightweight, not too expensive, would last many seasons, and most of all that I could put in place with zero brain power at 3am ( stupidly simple).

I went to a foam store and bought a 4x8 food sheet of dense closed cell foam for $75 and made cutouts for all the windows and skylights. That took thought on how not to waste foam so that I did not have to buy a second sheet. The prep to make everything work is what is slow and time consuming but once you have cut and fit everything it takes just minutes to pull it out of storage and have it in place in the TC.

The only place I had to use adhesives was on the frosted rear door window as it has a flared not square sill. For there I used 3m Quick lock vs velcro.





The skylights and vents all have snap in place panels and the foam fits nicely underneath them. The Hekki hatch over the bed took some thought but I just cut the panel so that is was snug in the long side and over wide on the short so that it fit in a curve and self holds to the shade frame







hekki



The dinette window foam uses the top of the dinette table as the bottom sill and fits behind the pull down shade which holds it tight to the glass, I have the same set up on the two kitchen windows which use the counter top as the bottom sill







Hatches and fiberglass





I have comfortably used this set up down to zero F.



Depending on anticipated temperatures I may or may not drain my water system (including the hot water heater). I start to contemplate it if there will be multiple days in the low 20s or below. regardless I add a couple of gallons of antifreeze to the black and gray tanks and I leave the cabinets open with the furnace on low during the trip if there is water on board in the tanks

other gear

Tire chains: put them on at home before the trip to make sure they fit at you can do it with ease. I use industrial zip ties to secure any excess links to prevent damage to the truck and I use a small wood block that fits in between the cross links. Just drive up onto the block and now the chain is free from the tire, no yanking pulling or cussing while getting the chain in place. you then pull forward a foot and retrieve the block.





Survival and fun stuff

Sharp axe and hand saw for clearing the road of downed small trees

Snow shoes and poles for fun hiking in the snow and for those times when you really need to get the hell out of where you are to get help as it beats the snot out of post holing in thigh deep snow



GoreTex gaitors keep the snow out of your boots

Ice Tracks to keep you from falling on your butt on icy roads or sidewalks, they take a minute to slip on to what ever type of shoe you are wearing and are worth their weight in gold



Shovel for digging out or for that one time when you need to dig a hole in the snow to make a cave and hole up



Henry 208 wet patch. I carry a tube for emergency leak stop in the tc. It is a complete pain in butt to remove but it is the only thing I have found that will seal a hole in the roof or skylight from a branch even in a driving rain storm or sub freezing temperatures
http://us.henry.com/roofing/mastics-and-cements/208-wet-patch-roof-leak-repair/

One other thing. Cotton clothes can kill you in the wet and cold, Only wear synthetics or 100% wool or silk when out in the woods they will stay warm when wet. I also carry goretex over pants and jacket shell

If you are going out of cell rage consider a SPOT device ( emergency locator beacon), a sat phone, or a 5 watt(or better) VHF radio to call for help if needed.

Most of all take lots of cool photos for your trip report:B
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anutami
Explorer III
Explorer III
Don't forget the rubber mallet to knock off all the ice hitchhikers. The ice can really put a damper on keeping you under your gvwr.





I also use some non-fiberglass thermal/sound insulation that is all natural. I grabbed a bunch of scrap material from a multifamily jobsite and put it all over the place, just make sure you have a hard hat and safety vest if you plan on raiding a jobsite ๐Ÿ™‚
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2015 Wolf Creek 850 Thermal Pane Windows, Oven, Reinforced Anchor Bolts, 200w Solar, Torklift Tie Downs, Fastguns, Stableloads

Buzzcut1
Nomad II
Nomad II
Leave for Yosemite in the morning. Should be nice until Friday night. High country is supposed to get 3 feet of snow, Valley wet and windy but the temps may drop and we could get snow. Either way it's gonna be fun hiking about and having the awesome Ahwahnee Hotel Thanksgiving Dinner Feast Thursday afternoon. Back sometime on Sunday afternoon.
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kayco53
Explorer
Explorer
I second its a great idea using wood block.We have had windows freeze in place in the cold (-20c) Luck we had aplug in and could thaw out the frame enough to close it.We always take enough gear so that if everything goes wrong we are still warm.
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theclarkster
Explorer
Explorer
Good tips. Thanks. Moisture is also a big problem for us. We have single pane windows and some parts of our camper, I guess the area where the aluminum beams are, also get quite a bit of condensation. We have a wolf creek.

brholt
Explorer II
Explorer II
I thought I would provide a link to insp1505's great post on winterizing (for pretty extreme weather) his old AF1150

Extreme Winter Camping modifications (AF 1150)

jefe_4x4
Explorer
Explorer
Buzz,
If you are going to Yosemite around Thanksgiving like last year, it looks like a LOT better weather this time.
Good advice here. I've done most of those same tricks, except yours are on steroids!
Have a good trip if you go.
jefe
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tad94564
Explorer
Explorer
The Mad Norsky wrote:
covered wagon wrote:
coolmom42 wrote:
Great ideas!

A tip on the fiberglass---you could put it in some trash bags to make it easier to handle, and keep the backing dry. That stuff is nasty if it gets in your clothes.


I agree with this Buzzcut as that fiberglass dust migrates everywhere with little air currents inside the camper. I have cut a piece of similar foam insulation to fit behind the same compartment door as a solution.

Thank you for the tip on the crank handles.


Was thinking after reading this last night. Could a person just use some king sized pillow cases to hold the fiberglass?????


Flexible enough to bend around stuff, but more durable than a trash bag.


The fibers/dust would still get through the clothe.

Make the case out of house wrap. Then it will let water out, and hold the dust/fibers.

The_Mad_Norsky
Explorer
Explorer
covered wagon wrote:
coolmom42 wrote:
Great ideas!

A tip on the fiberglass---you could put it in some trash bags to make it easier to handle, and keep the backing dry. That stuff is nasty if it gets in your clothes.


I agree with this Buzzcut as that fiberglass dust migrates everywhere with little air currents inside the camper. I have cut a piece of similar foam insulation to fit behind the same compartment door as a solution.

Thank you for the tip on the crank handles.


Was thinking after reading this last night. Could a person just use some king sized pillow cases to hold the fiberglass?????


Flexible enough to bend around stuff, but more durable than a trash bag.
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RV'ing since 1991

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billyray50
Explorer
Explorer
Hey Buzzcut1,

Have a picture of your battery compartment.. Like to see it..

Buzzcut1
Nomad II
Nomad II
Interstate Marine deep cycle AGM smaller footprint allowed me to easily put two in the compartment.
2011 F350 6.7L Diesel 4x4 CrewCab longbed Dually, 2019 Lance 1062, Torqlift Talons, Fast Guns, upper and lower Stable Loads, Super Hitch, 48" Super Truss, Airlift loadlifter 5000 extreme airbags

The_Mad_Norsky
Explorer
Explorer
Excellent information.

Really glad you started this thread.
The Mad Norsky, Doll, Logan and Rocky
2014 Ram 3500 w/ Cummins/Aisin
2019 Northern Lite 10-2 EX CD LE Wet Bath
RV'ing since 1991

I took the road less traveled .....Now I'm Lost!

bb_94401
Explorer
Explorer
To deal with snow burying the generator we bought a dog tent and added more zippers to keep snow from drifting in. Keeps the generator dry and prevents puddles from forming inside when we put it under the table for traveling.





Winter camping also means dealing with lots of wet, or soon to be wet gear inside the camper. While a pain to unload when you want to shower, we added lots of suction hooks from Bed Bath and Beyond and used spring loaded curtain rods to hang more coats, goggles, gloves and hats.



To deal with the mud and gravel on boots when they thaw out we found a plastic storage box that fits in the shower. Tiles of Dri-Dek are in the bottom of the storage box to separate the melt water from the boots as they warm up. Makes for easy clean up and keeps the mess out of the shower drain.



As things dry out we vent the bath to eliminate the extra moisture.
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Bob__B
Explorer
Explorer
Buzzcut1 wrote:
Bob B wrote:
Do you have any problem with the batteries?..... Some have mentioned that poor performance of the batteries due to getting cold is one of the biggest challenges.


never had an issue with my group 31 AGMs


Thanks.....For a follow-up....what brand AGM are you running? Do 2 fit OK in the battery compartment?
I'd like to do some cold weather camping in the future.
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Buzzcut1
Nomad II
Nomad II
Bob B wrote:
Do you have any problem with the batteries?..... Some have mentioned that poor performance of the batteries due to getting cold is one of the biggest challenges.


never had an issue with my group 31 AGMs
2011 F350 6.7L Diesel 4x4 CrewCab longbed Dually, 2019 Lance 1062, Torqlift Talons, Fast Guns, upper and lower Stable Loads, Super Hitch, 48" Super Truss, Airlift loadlifter 5000 extreme airbags