OK the new 6.7 has been out long enough to ask if there have been any problems with the later year ones such as the 2013. Also how are you folks with the 6.7 finding the stock exhaust brake working out. I use to have an exhaust brake on my Motor Home and then on my 2006 Dodge Ram, also had one on my 1999 F450 truck so know how well they work on those rigs and would like to compare it to the newer Fords. I already know that the Dodge and GM ones work fine so I don't need to be told how good they are. I'm a pickup slide in camper guy and want to trade trucks and all of my equipment off my present truck will fit right onto a new Ford truck so this is about $3000 of equipment that could be put on the new truck and save me some money there. It would be a F350 dually CC if I get a new one.

I have heard of no problems with the 6.7. You hear sporadic reports of high pressure fuel pump problems but I haven't heard of any recently. And I think all three model trucks use the same HPFP systems made by Bosch. The exhaust brake works great for me, we used it all the time coming down those western mountains. I occasionally had to apply the brake to slow down below 55 mph on long steep grades but when I let up on the brake the exhaust brake would kick in again and take it the rest of the way down.I did have one problem with the truck, a cracked battery. The dealer replaced it and the straps.BK

2013 problems?I'd think it is too early to tell if a 2013 anything is going to have problems.

Well, we have a 2011 diesel with the Tow Haul Mode brakes. It is not a true exhause brake but it does do an excellent job. We tow a fifth wheel and the tow haul mode brakes work great down long steep grades. It's activated by pressing on the brake and each time you activate the brakes after, it slows you down even more. We haven't had any problems and occassionally use it for a commuter vehicle, we like the ride so much.

As one poster already said, it's to early to tell if some major problems were fixed on the 2013 6.7 diesel.Here is a TSB that tells me Ford is still having valve problems with the 2013 6.7's. ClickyHere are some of the early problems they had with the engine.Turbo problems.More turbo problems.And more turbo problems.HPFP problems.More 12K HPFP problemsBlown engines.More blown engines.Radiator leaking.More leaking radiators.These are the common problems. Are they fixed for 2013? Who knows? The TSB shows including 2013 valve problems so that goes to this year.

I have had my 2012 F350 6.7 for a little over a year. Great truck and no problems. Towed 35' 5er over Colorado passes. Pulled them with no problems and exhaust brake made going down easy as can be. Minimal braking needed.

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The_Mad_Norsky
Explorer
Aug 28, 2013
mich800 wrote:
Out of curiosity, how did you come up with 3%? Did Ford and GM list their failure rate somewhere?

NHTSA is doing an investigation of VW diesel failures with the Bosch CP 4.1 pump, the one cylinder cousin of the CP 4.2 twin cylinder pump now in the Powerstroke and Duramax. So NHTSA wanted records on that pump too.

The records submitted by GM/Ford at NHTSA's request show the total of about 3 percent failures.
itguy08
Explorer
Aug 28, 2013
Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Great analogy! Wal Mart got to the top buy selling cheap....aaaaaa.......s...........aaaaaaaa....... stuff.

A lot of people like to buy cheap s........stuff.

Harbor Freight is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than Snap-On. Why? Because they sell way more tools than Snap-On. :R

IIRC Wal Mart got to where it was because of customer service and prices. It's been shown that most times they are not the cheapest and when they do they cut corners like less product for the lower price.

And I'd say Snap On sells more than Harbor Freight. Not sure of sales #'s but I'd say they are one of the tops in sales. I'd even say Sears sells more Craftsman than Harbor Freight. And yes I like me some HF tools. :)
Turtle_n_Peeps
Explorer
Aug 28, 2013
itguy08 wrote:
Flashman wrote:

Ford just can't do diesels.

Yet they sure sell a boat load of them. You don't get to the top by selling junk. You also don't have the #1 owner loyalty by building junk.

I hate Wal Mart as much as I hate Chrysler but no denying they are the top dog and they must be doing something right to get there.

I hate Microsoft.... same thing there...

Great analogy! Wal Mart got to the top buy selling cheap....aaaaaa.......s...........aaaaaaaa....... stuff.

A lot of people like to buy cheap s........stuff.

Harbor Freight is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than Snap-On. Why? Because they sell way more tools than Snap-On. :R
itguy08
Explorer
Aug 28, 2013
Flashman wrote:

The Ford 6.0 was the top seller also - does that make it a good engine?

Must have been cause the 6.4 and 6.7 were/are top sellers too. Either that or other aspects of the truck made people overlook that snafu. Yet people continue to buy more Fords than GMs and more Fords than Rams 2:1.

Don't know but I do know it let GM and Dodge sell a few more trucks and Ford a few less so it wasn't all that great.
Flashman
Explorer II
Aug 28, 2013
itguy08 wrote:
Flashman wrote:

Ford just can't do diesels.

Yet they sure sell a boat load of them. You don't get to the top by selling junk. You also don't have the #1 owner loyalty by building junk.

I hate Wal Mart as much as I hate Chrysler but no denying they are the top dog and they must be doing something right to get there.

I hate Microsoft.... same thing there...

The Ford 6.0 was the top seller also - does that make it a good engine?
itguy08
Explorer
Aug 28, 2013
Flashman wrote:

Ford just can't do diesels.

Yet they sure sell a boat load of them. You don't get to the top by selling junk. You also don't have the #1 owner loyalty by building junk.

I hate Wal Mart as much as I hate Chrysler but no denying they are the top dog and they must be doing something right to get there.

I hate Microsoft.... same thing there...
Flashman
Explorer II
Aug 28, 2013
45Ricochet wrote:
LOL
Hey Bob didn't have time for ALL your links but was THIS youtube from Joe Diesel on there? Year of the engine.

Ford just can't do diesels.
Perrysburg_Dodg
Explorer
Aug 28, 2013
MARK VANDERBENT wrote:
Funny how every hard towing test I have seen or read about in the last year or more has put the duramax on top. I am not saying others are junk, just that when diesel magazines put these trucks to the extreme tests and the duramax comes out on top, that says something.

"that says something" yep it says you have bragging rights.

But those test don't mean a hill of beans between the GM and Ford HD trucks the Ford was not that far behind was it. It's kind of like the Ford EB fan club saying their V-6 twin turbo smoked the Ram Hemi. Yep it sure did by a whopping one second.

So if getting to the top of a hill faster then the other guy is the most important thing to you then hold onto that. But now with the new Ram HD out it will be a different story I think.

OP I'm sure the Ford will provide you with everything you want and need. The only problem I and others have had with Ford is their lack of customer care! They sure go out of their way to find anything to void a covered repair!

Don
mich800
Explorer
Aug 28, 2013
The Mad Norsky wrote:
Well, from following all the threads here on the forum, along with other diesel related sites, it seems the failure rate for the Bosch pump runs at about 3 percent of total vehicles, and that is pretty much the same no matter if it is the Ford Powerstroke or the GM Duramax with this particular pump.

So the 97 percent really covers the pump fiasco. Unfortunately, seems this modern math of mine does not cover other problems listed, but surely they (I sure hope they are) are of a smaller percentage than the pump problem.

The Czech pump, when last I read about it some time back, was supposed to have some different metallurgy done with particular attention given to the inner parts, supposedly resulting in increased reliability. Now, to quote sources, I would have to scratch the old noggin and look hard, cause with all I have read related to the 6.7L Powerstroke, I just honestly do not recall where I saw this.

Out of curiosity, how did you come up with 3%? Did Ford and GM list their failure rate somewhere?
45Ricochet
Explorer
Aug 28, 2013
Actually Butch I consider these guys friends and would enjoy having a cold beverage out camping someday with them. We, at least me, was just kidding around. Sorry if the video didn't help you.
Having said that I'm sure the failure rate is a pretty small number. I just got back from a 3 week trip and I sure did camp with LOTS of 6.7 PSD owners who were happy campers :B
Good luck which ever one you get.

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