Ram Goes to Stunning 900 lb-ft of torque

ShinerBock wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Everyone knows that a in-line engine makes tons of torque down low and thru the mid rpm range and a V8 is just the opposite so the V8 should be able to out run the Ram over a long haul.

False! I am starting to not take you seriously on how much false information you have posted in this thread. There are many characteristics of an engine that determines when it gets its power, but the cylinder configuration is NOT one of them. The stroke length of the engine has a lot more to do with when an engine gets its torque. There are a lot more dynamics in an engines design that effect its characteristics as well. Currently all three light heavy duty diesel engines get their peak torque at 1,600 rpm. The only odd man out its the Cummins high output variant that gets its peak torque at a higher 1,700 rpm.

Here is some light reading with the actual differences between a I6 and V8 diesel. I6 versus V8 diesel.

You might want to re read your link my friend. It reads that in-line or I6 diesels top out or "red line between 1600-2000 RPM and "produce peak torque AT 1200 RPM, but by 1600 the torque has dropped drastically" This is found under the "I6 Advantages and Disadvantages" section.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
As far as the lying about the SAE J2807 specs both GM/Chevy and Ford had to remove parts and not just on the F-450 but all across the line up, to be able to get their trucks to look half way decent, Ram did not!

Don

False! Not the F150.



As far as the 2.7L EB versus the Ecodiesel, the mpg may be different but the cost per mile may not be too far off depending on the time of year due to the cost difference in fuels. Also the 2.7L was not "racing" up the hill since it was just doing the speed limit and had plenty of power to accelerate if needed. Just because the Ecodiesel could not hold the speed limit and the Ecoboost could does not mean it was "racing" up the hill. The quicker (not faster) off the line acceleration of the Ecodiesel has a lot more to do with the muck lower first gear of the 8 speed in the Ram than it had to do with engine power.
The Ecodiesel makes better fuel mileage towing and empty. If you do some checking I have said the Ram ED eats the Ford EB off the line through third gear (the Ram's third gear) do to the 8 speed transmission in the Ram. The only reason the Ford can hold speed is do to the twin turbos and higher red line over the ecodiesel. But and this is a huge BUT it will cost you gobs of fuel to be able to do it! This is not a slam against the EB they are great engines and I have no problem saying so and have said so. Even over on the Ram forums!

The differences between the two just depends on preferences. If you like having power to spare in those cases when you need to pass traffic that is going slower than the speed limit and do not mind paying extra in fuel then the 2.7L Ecoboost is for you. If you want better fuel economy, but do not mind not having as much power or you do not mind going slower than the speed limit then the Ecodiesel is for you.Not sure why you think the Ecodiesel is slower, pulling a step long grade yes but other than that nope they are very fast. As the guy in a 2015 Ford suv with a EB found out yesterday morning. We were side by side and I needed over in his lane, push down on the ole go pedal as did he and bye bye Ford. I will say when he got the chance he went around me like a raped ape. But then I was getting off the e-way so I waved good bye as he raced by me lol.


My preferences is that I don't mind paying more for power and capabilities. I have been in one of those situations towing where I was stuck behind slower moving traffic back when I had my 4.6L. I could not pass because I did not have enough power to pass without needing two miles of roadway to do so since the truck was barely able to accelerate. The semi in front of me and I were being passed by trucks that had more power than mine and I was stuck behind that truck for at least 20 miles. After that I said never again which is why my trucks have always been overpowered since then, and I will gladly pay extra for it. Others may not feel the same.

Well again other than a steep grade the little Ecodiesel is more than capable of passing and not needing 2 miles to do it. Have you ever driven one? I betting not as 98% of the people that are making these comments have never been behind the wheel of a Ecodiesel. I ordered mine with the optional 3.92 gears, why like you it's better to have it then need it!



Don