Ram Goes to Stunning 900 lb-ft of torque

[Perrysburg_Dodg]

The 2016 Ram 3500 breaks the towing record previously held by the old Ram 3500 (at 30,000 pounds) by moving up to 31,210 pounds,more than two tons beyond its closest rival. To get there, Ram went from 12 to 16 hardened bolts on the rear axle ring gear (for all trucks with the 11.8-inch axle), and used stronger materials in the differential case.

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[Turtle_n_Peeps]

There must be different types of semi's in other parts of the country? :h

The ones out west where I live when they climb a hill or mountain, most of them you can count the lug nuts on the wheels they are going so slow. They must be a REAL hazard according to some on here!!! "B

Either that or the semi's in your area have 1,500 to 2,000 HP to tow those mountains at 60 MPH. :B

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Hannibal wrote:
I've never been on a mountain grade, not even the 55mph Monteagle grade, where "every one else" is doing 65-80mph. There are always OTR trucks, box trucks, other RV's and slower vehicles crawling up the grades. If you're doing 65-80mph in these conditions, you're the hazard.

You are completely missing the point that myself and the other posters can clearly see. That is, if the speed limit is 55mph, then the closer you can drive to 55 the safer. It doesn't matter a jot if some OTR trucks are going 30 creating a dangerous differential, whether you like it or not the fact of the matter is MOST traffic we share the road with is going at least 55 (non-towers often 65-80mph depending on the speed limit).

To hear you talk you'd think people are choosing to drive at 30mph on the interstate. Why do you think big rigs going 30mph uphill on the interstate have their HAZARD LIGHTS flashing? Because their speed is a hazard. Notice their speed returns to 55 and the lights go off once the climb finishes.

KSSS- well said.

[ksss]

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blt2ski wrote:

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valhalla360 wrote:

brnzbk wrote:
I was waiting for this, and wondering where it will all stop. Have the big three manufacturers reached a point where the engines are more capable than the trucks they are putting them in?

I think that happened a decade ago.

The engines haven't been a limiting factor regarding what you can tow in a long time.

True, but the newer trucks are far stronger (frame, axles, brakes) than they were a decade ago so payload and towing has been able to increase. The massive power is more of a bonus safety feature.

How is more power a safety feature? Ever here of some one say in a wreck they wished they had more HP? probably not. Usually more braking, could not see around a corner, going too fast for conditions etc. running a red light, not paying attention.........

There are right hand lanes for going slower than the rest of the folks on hills etc. I've run out of low gearing and stalled rigs on too steep of hills. But never had too little HP, including rigs with as little as 105HP std in a C2500 with a BIG 6 cyl. Out pulled a 454 up a steeper grade! Including pulling up the 12k loaded 3500 dually up said hill as it did not have the correct gearing.

Marty

Marty, if you don't think doing 30mph is dangerous when everyone else is doing 65-80mph then I don't know what to tell you. Speed differential is the cause of many fatal accidents. More power and the ability to drive to the speed limit and accelerate is obviously safer provided the driver has a degree of common sense.

If you were ever driving in Montana during the time that they did not have a speed limit, you know this to be true. The traffic in some areas varied from below the old posted speed limit to 100 mph, that left a lot of blood on the road. Had the no speed limit been just on the Interstate it may have worked, similar to the Autobahn, which can be scary in itself, but in Montana with the major secondary roads not having a speed limit was too much, and that is something I would have never thought I would say about not having a speed limit.

[Hannibal]

I've never been on a mountain grade, not even the 55mph Monteagle grade, where "every one else" is doing 65-80mph. There are always OTR trucks, box trucks, other RV's and slower vehicles crawling up the grades. If you're doing 65-80mph in these conditions, you're the hazard.

[Cummins12V98]

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blt2ski wrote:

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valhalla360 wrote:

brnzbk wrote:
I was waiting for this, and wondering where it will all stop. Have the big three manufacturers reached a point where the engines are more capable than the trucks they are putting them in?

I think that happened a decade ago.

The engines haven't been a limiting factor regarding what you can tow in a long time.

True, but the newer trucks are far stronger (frame, axles, brakes) than they were a decade ago so payload and towing has been able to increase. The massive power is more of a bonus safety feature.

How is more power a safety feature? Ever here of some one say in a wreck they wished they had more HP? probably not. Usually more braking, could not see around a corner, going too fast for conditions etc. running a red light, not paying attention.........

There are right hand lanes for going slower than the rest of the folks on hills etc. I've run out of low gearing and stalled rigs on too steep of hills. But never had too little HP, including rigs with as little as 105HP std in a C2500 with a BIG 6 cyl. Out pulled a 454 up a steeper grade! Including pulling up the 12k loaded 3500 dually up said hill as it did not have the correct gearing.

Marty

Marty, if you don't think doing 30mph is dangerous when everyone else is doing 65-80mph then I don't know what to tell you. Speed differential is the cause of many fatal accidents. More power and the ability to drive to the speed limit and accelerate is obviously safer provided the driver has a degree of common sense.

Completely agree!

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blt2ski wrote:

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valhalla360 wrote:

brnzbk wrote:
I was waiting for this, and wondering where it will all stop. Have the big three manufacturers reached a point where the engines are more capable than the trucks they are putting them in?

I think that happened a decade ago.

The engines haven't been a limiting factor regarding what you can tow in a long time.

True, but the newer trucks are far stronger (frame, axles, brakes) than they were a decade ago so payload and towing has been able to increase. The massive power is more of a bonus safety feature.

How is more power a safety feature? Ever here of some one say in a wreck they wished they had more HP? probably not. Usually more braking, could not see around a corner, going too fast for conditions etc. running a red light, not paying attention.........

There are right hand lanes for going slower than the rest of the folks on hills etc. I've run out of low gearing and stalled rigs on too steep of hills. But never had too little HP, including rigs with as little as 105HP std in a C2500 with a BIG 6 cyl. Out pulled a 454 up a steeper grade! Including pulling up the 12k loaded 3500 dually up said hill as it did not have the correct gearing.

Marty

Marty, if you don't think doing 30mph is dangerous when everyone else is doing 65-80mph then I don't know what to tell you. Speed differential is the cause of many fatal accidents. More power and the ability to drive to the speed limit and accelerate is obviously safer provided the driver has a degree of common sense.

[8_1_Van]

That should be great for hotshot hauling.

[blt2ski]

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valhalla360 wrote:

brnzbk wrote:
I was waiting for this, and wondering where it will all stop. Have the big three manufacturers reached a point where the engines are more capable than the trucks they are putting them in?

I think that happened a decade ago.

The engines haven't been a limiting factor regarding what you can tow in a long time.

True, but the newer trucks are far stronger (frame, axles, brakes) than they were a decade ago so payload and towing has been able to increase. The massive power is more of a bonus safety feature.

How is more power a safety feature? Ever here of some one say in a wreck they wished they had more HP? probably not. Usually more braking, could not see around a corner, going too fast for conditions etc. running a red light, not paying attention.........

There are right hand lanes for going slower than the rest of the folks on hills etc. I've run out of low gearing and stalled rigs on too steep of hills. But never had too little HP, including rigs with as little as 105HP std in a C2500 with a BIG 6 cyl. Out pulled a 454 up a steeper grade! Including pulling up the 12k loaded 3500 dually up said hill as it did not have the correct gearing.

Marty

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valhalla360 wrote:

brnzbk wrote:
I was waiting for this, and wondering where it will all stop. Have the big three manufacturers reached a point where the engines are more capable than the trucks they are putting them in?

I think that happened a decade ago.

The engines haven't been a limiting factor regarding what you can tow in a long time.

True, but the newer trucks are far stronger (frame, axles, brakes) than they were a decade ago so payload and towing has been able to increase. The massive power is more of a bonus safety feature.

[valhalla360]

brnzbk wrote:
I was waiting for this, and wondering where it will all stop. Have the big three manufacturers reached a point where the engines are more capable than the trucks they are putting them in?

I think that happened a decade ago.

The engines haven't been a limiting factor regarding what you can tow in a long time.

[bigg-limo]

rhagfo wrote:

mr. ed wrote:
My 2007 3500 RAM has far less than 900 ft/lbs torque but it handles my 30' Fiver quite well. I don't think my stock clutch could have handled any more torque than it does (clutch was replaced about 1 1/2 years ago ).

Easy fix to that issue, install a double disk clutch!

Yep,...Southbend.

[The_Mad_Norsky]

blofgren wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

brnzbk wrote:
I was waiting for this, and wondering where it will all stop. Have the big three manufacturers reached a point where the engines are more capable than the trucks they are putting them in?

Just for fun take a look under a 2012 RAM 3500 then look at a 2015 RAM 3500. Amazing difference!

They are making the trucks and engines more capable and backing up their claims with SAE J2807.

Exactly; look under a 2013 and up Ram 3500 dually and the size of the components will amaze you. My Ram made my previous 2003 Ford F-350 DRW 4x4 look like a half ton.

Weight wise, they have increased because of all the added components, at least in comparison to my previous vehicles.

Weighed mine the other day w just wife and I on board and we were hitting 9,120 pounds on the scales.

I recall my 2003 Chevy 3500 dually Duramax was just about 8,000 pounds.

[blofgren]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

brnzbk wrote:
I was waiting for this, and wondering where it will all stop. Have the big three manufacturers reached a point where the engines are more capable than the trucks they are putting them in?

Just for fun take a look under a 2012 RAM 3500 then look at a 2015 RAM 3500. Amazing difference!

They are making the trucks and engines more capable and backing up their claims with SAE J2807.

Exactly; look under a 2013 and up Ram 3500 dually and the size of the components will amaze you. My Ram made my previous 2003 Ford F-350 DRW 4x4 look like a half ton.

[Cummins12V98]

FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
My sources say no on the next Powerstroke being 1,000 lb-ft in the 2017.

Also, just because you increase torque at 1,700 rpm does not mean it will effect peak horsepower at 2,800 rpm. The 900 lb-ft of torque will increase the horsepower at 1,700 rpm to 291hp, but that is still not greater than the peak 385hp at 2,800 rpm.

Like what was said before, this whole "who gots the most power and tows the most" pissing contest is just about worthless to just about everyone here. If any of these diesels were not capable to tow what most owners need to while maintaining decent speeds and with power to spare then I can see the point. However, all three diesels can easily tow what most truck owners here need them to so bragging about power that you will never need or use in the real world is about as pointless as a shnit flavored lollipop. How about keeping the remaining power and capabilities while increasing fuel mileage. Do that and I will really be impressed.

I guess I'm excluded out of the "everyone" category here, because I really enjoy the extra HP and Torque my 6.7 PSD delivers over my 6.0 PSD towing or unloaded. And that's towing the same camper, boat, utility trailer/tractor-shredder it's just hands down a more enjoyable experience. And dusting an occasional truck just tops it off! :B

I'm looking forward to next years PSD that reaches the 1000 ft/lbs mark, and increase HP.

I said just about everyone. There are still some here that need a little more growing up to do.

That's why I was specific to "Just about Everyone"

I'm probably older than you think I am... I suppose my first car a Chevelle LS5 left an ever lasting impression on me! :W

I have seen a 55 year old man who still had some growing up to do. It is not about age and is more about a person's mentality.

However, if one has to purposely go out of their way to piss in someones sandbox by saying "mine is better than yours" just so he can get some kind of enjoyment to make himself feel better then I think that person has some growing up to do. If someone has to "dust" someone on public roads(instead of a track where it is safer) just so he can get his rocks off then I think that person has some growing up to do. Lastly, if some is still caught up in "my brand is better" then they definitely have some growing up to do regardless of age.

Your preachin to the choir!

UH, me thinks he be talkin to you. 😉

[FishOnOne]

ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
My sources say no on the next Powerstroke being 1,000 lb-ft in the 2017.

Also, just because you increase torque at 1,700 rpm does not mean it will effect peak horsepower at 2,800 rpm. The 900 lb-ft of torque will increase the horsepower at 1,700 rpm to 291hp, but that is still not greater than the peak 385hp at 2,800 rpm.

Like what was said before, this whole "who gots the most power and tows the most" pissing contest is just about worthless to just about everyone here. If any of these diesels were not capable to tow what most owners need to while maintaining decent speeds and with power to spare then I can see the point. However, all three diesels can easily tow what most truck owners here need them to so bragging about power that you will never need or use in the real world is about as pointless as a shnit flavored lollipop. How about keeping the remaining power and capabilities while increasing fuel mileage. Do that and I will really be impressed.

I guess I'm excluded out of the "everyone" category here, because I really enjoy the extra HP and Torque my 6.7 PSD delivers over my 6.0 PSD towing or unloaded. And that's towing the same camper, boat, utility trailer/tractor-shredder it's just hands down a more enjoyable experience. And dusting an occasional truck just tops it off! :B

I'm looking forward to next years PSD that reaches the 1000 ft/lbs mark, and increase HP.

I said just about everyone. There are still some here that need a little more growing up to do.

That's why I was specific to "Just about Everyone"

I'm probably older than you think I am... I suppose my first car a Chevelle LS5 left an ever lasting impression on me! :W

I have seen a 55 year old man who still had some growing up to do. It is not about age and is more about a person's mentality.

However, if one has to purposely go out of their way to piss in someones sandbox by saying "mine is better than yours" just so he can get some kind of enjoyment to make himself feel better then I think that person has some growing up to do. If someone has to "dust" someone on public roads(instead of a track where it is safer) just so he can get his rocks off then I think that person has some growing up to do. Lastly, if some is still caught up in "my brand is better" then they definitely have some growing up to do regardless of age.

Your preachin to the choir!