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Some science regarding towing

dnakaseF150EB
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Brian_C1
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ib516 wrote:
Simply put....

You can pound a nail into a board using a pair of pliers, but a hammer works so much better.


I've found that in some cases the closest heavy object within my reach makes a perfectly good hammer...........
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dodge_guy
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ib516 wrote:
Simply put....

You can pound a nail into a board using a pair of pliers, but a hammer works so much better.


Yes, but do you buy the tack hammer or the 10lb sledge hammer?
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blt2ski
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JIMNLIN wrote:
I prefer actual experience of what actually works vs scientific equations.

Everyone knows ya' gotta' have a one ton DRW to pull a popup" cause I read it on ......RV.net :R


Jim,

That is false, you need a tandem class 8 to pull a popup!

Please get your facts straight!

Marty
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JIMNLIN
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I prefer actual experience of what actually works vs scientific equations.

Everyone knows ya' gotta' have a one ton DRW to pull a popup" cause I read it on ......RV.net :R
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N-Trouble
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One of my all time favorites. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyXgMal3C1U
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Brassica
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I want a strain gauge at the trailer ball so that I can check the tongue load fastidiously.

ib516
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Simply put....

You can pound a nail into a board using a pair of pliers, but a hammer works so much better.
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blt2ski
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06Fargo wrote:
Science schmience...

Don't I just need to get a dually?


Actually, just buy the true heavy duty truck, ie a DOT class 8 tractor! Do not think about towing with a light duty truck, ie anything up to a 13500 gvwr/1 ton truck. then only tent trailer/single axle trailers to 3500 lbs with a medium duty truck, ie 13501-33K gvwr.

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marty
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92 Red-e-haul 12K equipment trailer

noteven
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Science schmience...

Don't I just need to get a dually?

Dog_Folks
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This written by a person whom does not know to capitalize proper names like "Forester."

Also, he is presenting this very complex subject where he admits:"Given that I only managed one year in my mechanical engineering program before switching to communications,....."

Not the most educated source for this very complex subject.
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blt2ski
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Says similar things I learned when I first started towing in the late 70's. No trailer bigger than 2x the GRAWR, or max gcwr is 2x gvwr or 3x grawr. Then you have a trailer that is not too big per say for the tow rig chassis. From here, you spec the drivetrain to YOUR performance specs, not some engineer/J2082ASEA specs which are totally useless for the type of towing I personally do. IE I go up grades to 30%, there spec is a minimum of 12%, I want speeds of 40-45 on a 5-6% grade, theirs is 35min on a 4% grade. So my performance specs are probably way the heck tougher to meet than those puny useless specs!

marty
92 Navistar dump truck, 7.3L 7 sp, 4.33 gears with a Detroit no spin
2014 Chevy 1500 Dual cab 4x4
92 Red-e-haul 12K equipment trailer

Francesca_Knowl
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In other words: to tow big one either needs a BIG vehicle or a lower speed.

As in:


This is news in what way?
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Old-Biscuit
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Already covered in this post from 7/23/14.......LINK
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SDcampowneroper
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Wonderful research white paper. The dynamic relationship between vehicles is not one well understood.