Surge protector

Well, reading this Forum can be expensive! I have been using a Surge Guard without any issues, but this past weekend while at an RV Park they were doing "maintenance" and the power went on/off numerous times. I got nervous and just unplugged from the pedestal until they were finished. That incident, and the comments in this Thread, prompted me to buy an EMS-PT50X from Progressive Ind. My only concern is having it shut down with my animals inside while we are gone, but then at least the AC won't get fried and will restart with normal power. I like the fact that if I have to use a 30Amp pedestal I can see the current being drawn before I exceed 30 Amps and pop the breaker. Anyone want to buy slightly used Surge Guard in good cond.....

By the way the EMS is On Sale at camping world for $366.15

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/ems-pt50x-50-amp-ems-with-surge-protection/102485

SoundGuy wrote:


You're a lone wolf howling in the wind westom. :R No one claims these EMS devices to be "perfect", just that any RV owner is far better off using one to assist in protecting their rig than not - period. If anything in these discussions is complicated it's your constant analyses that are way beyond the interest & understanding of most here on the forums and serve only to confuse. Time to give up the preaching, no one cares. :R

well stated SG
bumpy

westom wrote:
Even some Progressive models do not do what some campers want. If that is too complicated, then all life is too complicated.

You're a lone wolf howling in the wind westom. :R No one claims these EMS devices to be "perfect", just that any RV owner is far better off using one to assist in protecting their rig than not - period. If anything in these discussions is complicated it's your constant analyses that are way beyond the interest & understanding of most here on the forums and serve only to confuse. Time to give up the preaching, no one cares. :R

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The ONLY way to totally protect your RV is to get a Progressive Industries EMS system, either portable or hard wired. In it's first season in 2016, ours saved our TT from serous OVER voltage several times a day for 5 days at a NY State Park ( Cayuga Lake State Park). In speaking to a park ranger, he acknowledged they were fully aware that there were over voltage problems at the Park for "several " years and had not received funding to fix them. He said very few campers have an advanced EMS like mine so are unaware of the cumulative long term damage and shortening of life they are causing to their major electronics and systems in their RV's. In the very next NY State Park in Ithaca, we had our system shut us down several times for UNDER voltage! GET ONE OF THESE UNITS NOW!

Even some Progressive models do not do what some campers want. If that is too complicated, then all life is too complicated. Nobody can make an informed recommendation until the appropriate anomaly is first defined. Some want a magic box - do not first learn what is required.

Four typical anomalies were defined. Honest products explicity state protection from each. Many items, call surge protectors, do not. Some were even recommended here.

Layman simple to first define anomalies. Then select a product that actually claims to protect from each anomaly. Many protectors do not.

Some recommendation did not bother to define what the product protects from. What it must do. Or why it is necessary. Those recommendation made everything complex. What works was defined. Why those disingenuous recommendations were bogus also had to be explained.

Recommendations that do not say why are best challenged as if bogus. Informed layman do that routinely in everything in life. If it does not also say why - with numbers, then it is probably a lie - maybe a scam.

First an anomaly is defined. Then an item that defines protection (with numbers) is selected. That layman simple.

I have the PI HW30C. Great peace of mind and I like the remote display. The unit was easy to wire into the system, there are plenty of you tube videos if you need help. My seasonal campground had a partial brown out this weekend, it was good to know that I could read the display and see I had nothing to worry about. Apparently it was something down he road as the electric company made several passes down the road for a few hours.

Bumpyroad wrote:
OK, lets try again on these 4 anomalies. what I am interested in would be of course over/under voltage, mis-wiring, some surge protection, and delayed restart to protect AC compressor/motor.

SoundGuy wrote:
Then you want an EMS.

Bumpyroad wrote:
yes, but which one? westom gave lots of variables.

That's the problem - westom gave you TOO MUCH information. :R

Make it simple for yourself - buy a Progressive Industries EMS with a lifetime warranty. :B If your rig is wired for 30 amp service then buy a 30 amp model, if it's wired with 50 amp service then buy a 50 amp version. If you prefer simplicity and ease of use buy a portable version (EMS-PT30X or EMS-PT50X), if you're willing / able to wire the unit into your rig and would prefer the advantages a hard wire model can offer then buy a hard wire version (EMS-HW30C or EMS-HW50C).

It's really quite simple, despite westom's exhortations that only serve to over complicate the issue of choosing an appropriate electrical protection device for your rig. ;)

Bumpyroad wrote:

SoundGuy wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:
OK, lets try again on these 4 anomalies. what I am interested in would be of course over/under voltage, mis-wiring, some surge protection, and delayed restart to protect AC compressor/motor.

Then you want an EMS.

yes, but which one? westom gave lots of variables.
bumpy

Progressive Industries is the consensus standard which the others are always measured against. It's a great product, and their customer service has always been second to none. If you have a 50 amp service in your RV, then get the 50 amp. If 30 amp, then get that one. I have the 30 amp portable.