Time for truck tires.

I'm on my 2nd set of Bridgestone Revo 2 LT265/70-17 E tires on my 2wd 2500 Dodge/Cummins/anti-spin. Ran the first set for 72k miles and now 55k miles on the 2nd set.
I'm all rural out here with no city driving and I'm easy on tires. I ran the OEM Michelin LTX AS for 112k miles which was worthless on green grass and snow pack roads/icey roads.
After going with the Revo 2's I could actually drive on snow pack and no more stuck on summer time green grass.

Another vote for the Cooper Discoverer AT3. Solid highway manners and decent off road and in snow. We run them on our Grand Cherokee. Running BFG KO2’s on my truck..

I try not to be Nitto fan boy, I also run Cooper and Falken Wild Peak AT tires. Fact is Nitto is pretty dang good tire. I have had four sets of Exo's and one set of G2's. The G2's are on a half ton and stay mainly on asphalt, but the EXO have been on 3500's doing a lot of towing and spend a lot of time off highway. They are a heavy duty tire that performs well if you need more than a highway tire.

Lantley wrote:

twodownzero wrote:
I have been less than impressed with my michelins on my car.

While I have had a very good experience with the Michelin's on my dually. I can't vouch for any other Michelin tire.

I'm actually surprised about mine on my car because they are by far the best reviewed tire in their category, but they have never really had good performance on any surface. Fortunately they're going to be completely shot this year and I can try something else.

My OE tires on my Ram were Michelins, and the all season tread design did not suit my lifestyle at all, and I don't even use my truck that hard. I would have ordered it with all terrains, but they were installing the BF Goodrich Rugged Trail T/A, which was a simpler tread design and probably no better than the Michelins that came on my truck (LTX M/S).

I have the Nitto Terra Grappler (original) on my Ram that I pull my 5er with and the Ridge Grappler on my other truck that I use 50/50 off road and on. I've been very impressed with the Terra Grapplers from the beginning. They are the best all terrain type tire I've tried personally. I've previously tried the BFG All Terrain and Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor.

The new Terra Grappler G2 has slightly less void ratio than the previous tire but in exchange, they have a treadwear warranty on LT sizes. The older Terra Grappler have done everything I could have possibly asked of them and I would definitely go with the new tire if I didn't want to try something else.

My next tire is likely going to be the Nitto Exo Grappler. It is a commercial traction design tire that is rated for extreme snow with a lot of siping. I live in the desert but having spent 30 years in the midwest, bad weather is something I want my truck to always be prepared for. The only bummer is no treadwear warranty, but my current tires are probably going to only be about half tread before they age out, so I'm not too concerned about that.

The Goodyear Wrangler All Terrain Adventure also has a treadwear warranty and is rated for extreme snow conditions. If I can get it for the right price, I may go with it instead.

I never intended to become a Nitto fan boy, but the tires they make cover a nice range of streetability vs. dirtability. The more extreme tread designs I don't consider because I live in the desert and we rarely have mud. The milder ones are great for those of us who venture down some rough roads or to the lake where we would be screwed without some grip but we still need cool, quiet highway performance.

FishOnOne wrote:

My truck came with Michelin AT2 tires and there is no way it's an All Terrain tire. Most Michelin AT tires look more like highway tread tires and that's ok if that's your game. Having said that, the current Goodyear tires I'm running are a little cheaper, run just as quite, stay balanced for the lifespan, not too aggressive, Kevlar side walls for smoother ride and lasts longer than those Michelins I had. For my truck I ran Michelin (Better), BF Goodrich (Worst), and Goodyear (Best).

I agree with this, MOST Michelins I have run or seen look like aggressive highway tires at best. If you really need to have an aggressive tread due to off highway use, you would need to go to one of their mud tires, not sure I have seen one, other than 19.5 and larger, like my now renamed with a new tread pattern, XDE M+S tires on the rear of my IHC dumptruck. Great traction oriented tires.
Other wise, if you need traction more than highway, COoper or Toyo IMHO have better tires. Toyo is the ONLY brand I have gotten more than 60K miles out of a tire. Coopers are 45-55k Depending upon agressive vs less. Michelin if I get 40-45K out of them, at twice the cost of Cooper, and 125% of toyo, is not worth it from a $ per mile stand point.

Marty

ksss wrote:
Interesting how different people have such wildly different views of the same tire. I don't think there is a more worthless tire put on as an OEM tire than the M/S-2, maybe staying on dry asphalt, perhaps it is ok, but since it is marketed as an All Terrain tire, if should be able to perform in "all terrain" which it cant. A couple years ago my tire dealer had a room full of the M/S-2 take offs. They should simply be marketed as a highway tire and leave it at that.

My truck came with Michelin AT2 tires and there is no way it's an All Terrain tire. Most Michelin AT tires look more like highway tread tires and that's ok if that's your game. Having said that, the current Goodyear tires I'm running are a little cheaper, run just as quite, stay balanced for the lifespan, not too aggressive, Kevlar side walls for smoother ride and lasts longer than those Michelins I had. For my truck I ran Michelin (Better), BF Goodrich (Worst), and Goodyear (Best).

twodownzero wrote:
I have been less than impressed with my michelins on my car.

While I have had a very good experience with the Michelin's on my dually. I can't vouch for any other Michelin tire.

Interesting how different people have such wildly different views of the same tire. I don't think there is a more worthless tire put on as an OEM tire than the M/S-2, maybe staying on dry asphalt, perhaps it is ok, but since it is marketed as an All Terrain tire, if should be able to perform in "all terrain" which it cant. A couple years ago my tire dealer had a room full of the M/S-2 take offs. They should simply be marketed as a highway tire and leave it at that.

I have been less than impressed with my michelins on my car.

bobsallyh wrote:
Lantly, I sure wished I could have gotten that kind of mileage out of the set of MS/2's that I had!

Honestly initially I was shocked. I bought the truck used with 35K miles the 1st set of MS/2's already on it.
After the 1st set lasted for 80K I wanted to confirm that the original tires did in fact last 80K, and that I did not start out with tires that were not the OEM originals.
The 2nd set also lasted 80K which sort of confirmed that the 1st set were truly OEM originals.
By the time I got the 3rd set I had become a diehard Michelin guy.
Before my experience with my last 2007 Duramax dually truck I would have never considered Michelin's I was always too frugal:W
But I have to admit the Michelin have proven to be worth the extra cost at least in my case they were. Prior to this truck I had never had a set of tires last more than 50K.
My last truck was my first dually and I often wonder if having a bigger truck contributed to the tire longevity:h. vs. wearing out the tires prematurely with a maxed out SRW truck:S