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tinner12002
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Just courious as to the tire wear some of you are getting on the rear of your dually...not mileage so much as wear from each tire, inside vs outside. I noticed the other day that my outside duals are nearly to the tread wear nubs but the insides are in good shape still. I run the same pressures in both so not sure why the outers are wearing faster than the inners. Any thoughts?
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steve-n-vicki
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if the roads you drive on have started to rut out the front tires will be in the rut and the inner tires will be in the rut and the outers will be on the high spot, thus more wear

Cummins12V98
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tinner12002 wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
I have basically the same truck. You are aggressive when taking off from a start. I ease into starting and have perfect wear across all tires within 1/32".

I run 45psi solo and 60 towing with 4.5-5K pin. I always run 80 fonts. Michelin MS2's 35K and 1/3 worn.


I don't really take off fast as you say, but even if I did if the outer tire is spinning so is the inner so wear should be the same.
I'm running 75 in fronts and 65 in the rears.


Did not mean to be accusing. Just repeating what the Discount Tire Mgr told me about uneven rear dual tire wear.
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Cummins12V98
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transamz9 wrote:
I rotate mine every oil change. Inside rears to the front and cross the front to the inside rear. Outside rears get crossed.


No doubt you have all steel wheels.
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transamz9
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I rotate mine every oil change. Inside rears to the front and cross the front to the inside rear. Outside rears get crossed.
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tinner12002
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I haven't and don't plan on rotating mine. I figured no more expensive as they are I would just let them wear and replace but the inside outside wear had me baffled.
Reminds of a funny story, now its funny but it wasn't at the time. Took my truck into Wally world to let them change the oil and rotate tires. I asked them if they were experienced with duallys and they said no problem. I have mag wheels as most factory trucks do these days, but when I came out to pick up my truck the mech...I use that term loosely, had swapped my inner dual, wheels and all to the outside on the rear and had used my outer dual on the front and had used my fronts on the inside rear so I had black rims on the rear and semi-polished rims on the front, didn't even bother to try and clean them ...I seen that and asked him what he thought he was doing and he didn't know but that's the way they always do them he said! Wouldn't even let them touch it again, just took it to my local repair guy and asked him to assemble back to stock which he did at no cost. No more wally world for me.
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tinner12002
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
I have basically the same truck. You are aggressive when taking off from a start. I ease into starting and have perfect wear across all tires within 1/32".

I run 45psi solo and 60 towing with 4.5-5K pin. I always run 80 fonts. Michelin MS2's 35K and 1/3 worn.


I don't really take off fast as you say, but even if I did if the outer tire is spinning so is the inner so wear should be the same.
I'm running 75 in fronts and 65 in the rears.
2015 Ram 3500/DRW/Aisin/auto/Max tow/4.10s,Cummins, stock Laramie Limited--Silver
Tequila Sunrise 2012 Ultra Classic Limited
2018 Raptor 428SP

OldGreaser
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My wheels are location specific so I waited until 25k and again at 50k and paid the bucks. At 75k I left them alone and finished out the tires at 83k. They were BFG's. I've kept pressures at towing levels, i.e. 60psi on rear and 75 on front. The tires wore very evenly, at least to the eye.
I plan to follow the same strategy going forward.

bigg-limo
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
huntram wrote:
Are you guys rotating? How often and what pattern?

I used to do it every 5-6k miles on my srw but with the dually not sure when and if to do it. I know it will not be cheap!

Thanks,
Brian


Don't rotate the rears. Front's side to side every 10K or so.


Why would you not rotate the rears? Makes no sense to me, especially if all six wheels are steel. I know on some of the Ford models, you have to dismount the tires to rotate the tires, because the wheels are position specific. At that point, won't even touch them. I drive a Dodge and a Chevy dually,...and both have steel wheels. I keep it simple. I rotate them every 6k miles. The pattern i use is front to inside, inside to outside, and outside to front. I get the full life from my tires.

chevor
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My first dually and 15k miles on R500 tires and they haven't even wore a 1/32nd.

DirtyOil
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my little brother's "training wheels" wore fast as well... till dad lowered them and finally the back wheel got some wear.... but he did look funny going down the side walk, him and his bicycle flopping from one side to the other and back... 😛
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larry_barnhart
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I rotate every summer at 6000 miles. 6000 miles is the total driving each year.

This is the only set of tires I have had rotated. First dually I did it myself the only time it was done.

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Cummins12V98
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huntram wrote:
Are you guys rotating? How often and what pattern?

I used to do it every 5-6k miles on my srw but with the dually not sure when and if to do it. I know it will not be cheap!

Thanks,
Brian


Don't rotate the rears. Front's side to side every 10K or so.
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huntram
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Are you guys rotating? How often and what pattern?

I used to do it every 5-6k miles on my srw but with the dually not sure when and if to do it. I know it will not be cheap!

Thanks,
Brian
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leggy
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On my 08 F450, the inside dual always seemed to wear more. I attributed it to the crown of the poor roads that I typically drove.