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billtex
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Aug 03, 2013

Towing w/out rear camera

Occasionaly tow our 17' Classic Whaler, or a Boy Scout trailer behind the TC.
Currently do NOT have a camera back there.
Am not comfortable not being able to see what is going on...
Are there many others towing behind a TC that do not have a camera?

If you previously did not, and have added one, was it worthwhile?

I am thinking of the iball

Anyone using one of these?

Tx, B
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  • toptentech's avatar
    toptentech
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    Dec 22, 2019
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    billtex wrote:
    Occasionaly tow our 17' Classic Whaler, or a Boy Scout trailer behind the TC.
    Currently do NOT have a camera back there.
    Am not comfortable not being able to see what is going on...
    Are there many others towing behind a TC that do not have a camera?

    If you previously did not, and have added one, was it worthwhile?

    I am thinking of the ***Link Removed***

    Anyone using one of these?

    Tx, B


    Yes iball camera is good here you can read ***Link Removed***
  • Simplygib's avatar
    Simplygib
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    Aug 08, 2013
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    starcraft69 wrote:
    I never use a cam and have been towing a boat for years. I dont need another thing to worry about or look at. I try to focus on whats up ahead. I try to keep up on all maint. So i dont have to worry as much. I have debated getting one but always go with "If it ain't broke dont fix it"


    Off topic - Starcraft69, how long have you had that boat and how do you like it? I had an 18' aluminum Starcraft many years ago and loved it. Best runabout I ever owned. Lightweight, very responsive and roomy. It was an open bow with a 100hp Johnson on it, a 1970 model I believe. Did a lot of water skiing, fishing and camping with that thing. Still kicking myself for selling it (and that was 30 years ago).
  • Ski_Pro_3's avatar
    Ski_Pro_3
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    Aug 07, 2013
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    You can use your iphone with a bluetooth camera. That way you don't need cellular service to view the camera. You could install a local wifi hub and use that as a local internet connection for the signal too.
  • Homeless_by_Cho's avatar
    Homeless_by_Cho
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    Aug 07, 2013
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    I seen several comments about using the iphone. I am only guessing but I think that you would have to have cell service in the area to use the iphone as a monitor. Am I correct? If so, then the backup camera won't work in remote area where I need it the most for blind hooking up to the trailer.

    Please respond to my guess.

    LeRoy
  • billtex's avatar
    billtex
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    Aug 07, 2013
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    JoeChiOhki wrote:
    billtex wrote:
    Occasionaly tow our 17' Classic Whaler, or a Boy Scout trailer behind the TC.
    Currently do NOT have a camera back there.
    Am not comfortable not being able to see what is going on...
    Are there many others towing behind a TC that do not have a camera?

    If you previously did not, and have added one, was it worthwhile?

    I am thinking of the iball

    Anyone using one of these?

    Tx, B


    Towed a couple different trailers over the years behind the camper, no camera.

    With the little 4x8 chuckwagon, I called it faith-based-towing, because you pretty much couldn't see it while driving unless you jackknifed.


    Faith based...too funny!
    That is exactly my concern. Even with tow mirrors, the Scout trailer or the Whaler can't really be seen...they are both narrow.
    I have towed all over the country (we still tow our Airstream all over...) but having something you can't see behind you is a bit...unnerving...IMO.
    Any way...seems to be a toss-up...some do/some don't.
    I wish that iphone camera got better reviews...I would like to go that route. Hate to have another gadget taking up space in the truck.

    Thanks all for the feedback.

    Bill
  • starcraft69's avatar
    starcraft69
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    Aug 06, 2013
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    I never use a cam and have been towing a boat for years. I dont need another thing to worry about or look at. I try to focus on whats up ahead. I try to keep up on all maint. So i dont have to worry as much. I have debated getting one but always go with "If it ain't broke dont fix it"
  • JoeChiOhki's avatar
    JoeChiOhki
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    Aug 06, 2013
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    billtex wrote:
    Occasionaly tow our 17' Classic Whaler, or a Boy Scout trailer behind the TC.
    Currently do NOT have a camera back there.
    Am not comfortable not being able to see what is going on...
    Are there many others towing behind a TC that do not have a camera?

    If you previously did not, and have added one, was it worthwhile?

    I am thinking of the iball

    Anyone using one of these?

    Tx, B


    Towed a couple different trailers over the years behind the camper, no camera.

    With the little 4x8 chuckwagon, I called it faith-based-towing, because you pretty much couldn't see it while driving unless you jackknifed.
  • Reddog1's avatar
    Reddog1
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    Aug 06, 2013
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    My wired camera has one cable approximately 3/8 inches in diameter. It is smaller than a TC coax cable, and more flexible. The single cable has several wires in it. When I unload the TC, I simply unplug the cable at the rear of the cab of the truck. I could run a second cable ran inside the TC to use the monitor in the TC, but never got around to it.
  • bikerdib's avatar
    bikerdib
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    Aug 06, 2013
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    I'm looking into adding a camera to the camper just for reverse operation. Traveling forward I can see enough in the side mirrors (even though I don't have foldout tow mirrors) by leaning slightly and also by using the window in the camper door.

    What I'm looking into is getting an OEM camera and the wiring harness that is inside the tailgate. My truck came with a rear camera so my intention is to unplug the tailgate camera like normal when I remove the tailgate. I'll mount the additional camera on the back of the camper and just plug in the harness to the factory plug in the truck. I prefer not to have an additional monitor in the cab.

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billtex wrote:
Occasionaly tow our 17' Classic Whaler, or a Boy Scout trailer behind the TC.
Currently do NOT have a camera back there.
Am not comfortable not being able to see what is going on...
Are there many others towing behind a TC that do not have a camera?

If you previously did not, and have added one, was it worthwhile?

I am thinking of the ***Link Removed***

Anyone using one of these?

Tx, B


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billtex wrote:
Occasionaly tow our 17' Classic Whaler, or a Boy Scout trailer behind the TC.
Currently do NOT have a camera back there.
Am not comfortable not being able to see what is going on...
Are there many others towing behind a TC that do not have a camera?

If you previously did not, and have added one, was it worthwhile?

I am thinking of the ***Link Removed***

Anyone using one of these?

Tx, B


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starcraft69 wrote:
I never use a cam and have been towing a boat for years. I dont need another thing to worry about or look at. I try to focus on whats up ahead. I try to keep up on all maint. So i dont have to worry as much. I have debated getting one but always go with \"If it ain't broke dont fix it\"


Off topic - Starcraft69, how long have you had that boat and how do you like it? I had an 18' aluminum Starcraft many years ago and loved it. Best runabout I ever owned. Lightweight, very responsive and roomy. It was an open bow with a 100hp Johnson on it, a 1970 model I believe. Did a lot of water skiing, fishing and camping with that thing. Still kicking myself for selling it (and that was 30 years ago).","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-08-07T19:26:23.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-08-07T19:26:23.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":609},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:687266/message:687301","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"761","rawBody":"
starcraft69 wrote:
I never use a cam and have been towing a boat for years. I dont need another thing to worry about or look at. I try to focus on whats up ahead. I try to keep up on all maint. So i dont have to worry as much. I have debated getting one but always go with \"If it ain't broke dont fix it\"


Off topic - Starcraft69, how long have you had that boat and how do you like it? I had an 18' aluminum Starcraft many years ago and loved it. Best runabout I ever owned. Lightweight, very responsive and roomy. It was an open bow with a 100hp Johnson on it, a 1970 model I believe. Did a lot of water skiing, fishing and camping with that thing. Still kicking myself for selling it (and that was 30 years ago).","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:687301_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:295181":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:295181","uid":295181,"login":"Ski_Pro_3","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-06-15T22:14:43.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:295181"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:687300":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:687300","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:687300":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:295181"},"id":"message:687300","revisionNum":1,"uid":687300,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:687266"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:687266"},"subject":"Re: Towing w/out rear camera","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:687300"},"body":"You can use your iphone with a bluetooth camera. That way you don't need cellular service to view the camera. You could install a local wifi hub and use that as a local internet connection for the signal too.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-08-07T06:43:27.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-08-07T06:43:27.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":610},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:687266/message:687300","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"210","rawBody":"You can use your iphone with a bluetooth camera. That way you don't need cellular service to view the camera. 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I am only guessing but I think that you would have to have cell service in the area to use the iphone as a monitor. Am I correct? If so, then the backup camera won't work in remote area where I need it the most for blind hooking up to the trailer.

Please respond to my guess.

LeRoy","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-08-07T05:32:43.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-08-07T05:32:43.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":611},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:687266/message:687299","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"354","rawBody":"I seen several comments about using the iphone. I am only guessing but I think that you would have to have cell service in the area to use the iphone as a monitor. Am I correct? If so, then the backup camera won't work in remote area where I need it the most for blind hooking up to the trailer.

Please respond to my guess.

LeRoy","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:687299_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:687298":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:687298","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:687298":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:245"},"id":"message:687298","revisionNum":1,"uid":687298,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:687266"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:687266"},"subject":"Re: Towing w/out rear camera","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:687298"},"body":"
JoeChiOhki wrote:
billtex wrote:
Occasionaly tow our 17' Classic Whaler, or a Boy Scout trailer behind the TC.
Currently do NOT have a camera back there.
Am not comfortable not being able to see what is going on...
Are there many others towing behind a TC that do not have a camera?

If you previously did not, and have added one, was it worthwhile?

I am thinking of the iball

Anyone using one of these?

Tx, B


Towed a couple different trailers over the years behind the camper, no camera.

With the little 4x8 chuckwagon, I called it faith-based-towing, because you pretty much couldn't see it while driving unless you jackknifed.


Faith based...too funny!
That is exactly my concern. Even with tow mirrors, the Scout trailer or the Whaler can't really be seen...they are both narrow.
I have towed all over the country (we still tow our Airstream all over...) but having something you can't see behind you is a bit...unnerving...IMO.
Any way...seems to be a toss-up...some do/some don't.
I wish that iphone camera got better reviews...I would like to go that route. Hate to have another gadget taking up space in the truck.

Thanks all for the feedback.

Bill","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-08-07T05:02:13.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-08-07T05:02:13.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":610},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:687266/message:687298","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1445","rawBody":"
JoeChiOhki wrote:
billtex wrote:
Occasionaly tow our 17' Classic Whaler, or a Boy Scout trailer behind the TC.
Currently do NOT have a camera back there.
Am not comfortable not being able to see what is going on...
Are there many others towing behind a TC that do not have a camera?

If you previously did not, and have added one, was it worthwhile?

I am thinking of the iball

Anyone using one of these?

Tx, B


Towed a couple different trailers over the years behind the camper, no camera.

With the little 4x8 chuckwagon, I called it faith-based-towing, because you pretty much couldn't see it while driving unless you jackknifed.


Faith based...too funny!
That is exactly my concern. Even with tow mirrors, the Scout trailer or the Whaler can't really be seen...they are both narrow.
I have towed all over the country (we still tow our Airstream all over...) but having something you can't see behind you is a bit...unnerving...IMO.
Any way...seems to be a toss-up...some do/some don't.
I wish that iphone camera got better reviews...I would like to go that route. Hate to have another gadget taking up space in the truck.

Thanks all for the feedback.

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I dont need another thing to worry about or look at. I try to focus on whats up ahead. I try to keep up on all maint. So i dont have to worry as much. I have debated getting one but always go with \"If it ain't broke dont fix it\"","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-08-06T16:34:51.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-08-06T16:34:51.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":609},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:687266/message:687297","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"285","rawBody":"I never use a cam and have been towing a boat for years. I dont need another thing to worry about or look at. I try to focus on whats up ahead. I try to keep up on all maint. So i dont have to worry as much. I have debated getting one but always go with \"If it ain't broke dont fix it\"","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:687297_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:66200":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:66200","uid":66200,"login":"rlb8s","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-08-30T09:24:12.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:66200"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:687296":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:687296","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:687296":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:66200"},"id":"message:687296","revisionNum":1,"uid":687296,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:687266"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:687266"},"subject":"Re: Towing w/out rear camera","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:687296"},"body":"I just ordered this one -

Voyager Digital Wireless 7\" Backup Camera System

It is on sale for $540 thru RVCAMS.com. Amazon has it on sale for $996.48.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"156","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-08-06T14:56:17.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-08-06T14:56:17.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":610},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:687266/message:687296","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"362","rawBody":"I just ordered this one -

Voyager Digital Wireless 7\" Backup Camera System

It is on sale for $540 thru RVCAMS.com. Amazon has it on sale for $996.48.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:687296_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:48640":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:48640","uid":48640,"login":"JoeChiOhki","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-11-20T01:58:00.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:48640"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:687295":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:687295","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:687295":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:48640"},"id":"message:687295","revisionNum":1,"uid":687295,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:687266"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:687266"},"subject":"Re: Towing w/out rear camera","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:687295"},"body":"
billtex wrote:
Occasionaly tow our 17' Classic Whaler, or a Boy Scout trailer behind the TC.
Currently do NOT have a camera back there.
Am not comfortable not being able to see what is going on...
Are there many others towing behind a TC that do not have a camera?

If you previously did not, and have added one, was it worthwhile?

I am thinking of the iball

Anyone using one of these?

Tx, B


Towed a couple different trailers over the years behind the camper, no camera.

With the little 4x8 chuckwagon, I called it faith-based-towing, because you pretty much couldn't see it while driving unless you jackknifed.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-08-06T14:37:59.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-08-06T14:37:59.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":610},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:687266/message:687295","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"818","rawBody":"
billtex wrote:
Occasionaly tow our 17' Classic Whaler, or a Boy Scout trailer behind the TC.
Currently do NOT have a camera back there.
Am not comfortable not being able to see what is going on...
Are there many others towing behind a TC that do not have a camera?

If you previously did not, and have added one, was it worthwhile?

I am thinking of the iball

Anyone using one of these?

Tx, B


Towed a couple different trailers over the years behind the camper, no camera.

With the little 4x8 chuckwagon, I called it faith-based-towing, because you pretty much couldn't see it while driving unless you jackknifed.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:687295_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:107512":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:107512","uid":107512,"login":"Reddog1","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-03-09T07:45:53.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:107512"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:687294":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:687294","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:687294":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:107512"},"id":"message:687294","revisionNum":1,"uid":687294,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:687266"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:687266"},"subject":"Re: Towing w/out rear camera","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:687294"},"body":"My wired camera has one cable approximately 3/8 inches in diameter. It is smaller than a TC coax cable, and more flexible. The single cable has several wires in it. When I unload the TC, I simply unplug the cable at the rear of the cab of the truck. I could run a second cable ran inside the TC to use the monitor in the TC, but never got around to it.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-08-06T09:13:22.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-08-06T09:13:22.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":609},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:687266/message:687294","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"352","rawBody":"My wired camera has one cable approximately 3/8 inches in diameter. It is smaller than a TC coax cable, and more flexible. The single cable has several wires in it. When I unload the TC, I simply unplug the cable at the rear of the cab of the truck. I could run a second cable ran inside the TC to use the monitor in the TC, but never got around to it.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:687294_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:176560":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:176560","uid":176560,"login":"bikerdib","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-07-07T10:30:14.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:176560"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:687293":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:687293","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:687293":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:176560"},"id":"message:687293","revisionNum":1,"uid":687293,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:687266"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:687266"},"subject":"Re: Towing w/out rear camera","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:687293"},"body":"I'm looking into adding a camera to the camper just for reverse operation. Traveling forward I can see enough in the side mirrors (even though I don't have foldout tow mirrors) by leaning slightly and also by using the window in the camper door.

What I'm looking into is getting an OEM camera and the wiring harness that is inside the tailgate. My truck came with a rear camera so my intention is to unplug the tailgate camera like normal when I remove the tailgate. I'll mount the additional camera on the back of the camper and just plug in the harness to the factory plug in the truck. I prefer not to have an additional monitor in the cab.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-08-05T19:02:25.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-08-05T19:02:25.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":609},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:687266/message:687293","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"659","rawBody":"I'm looking into adding a camera to the camper just for reverse operation. Traveling forward I can see enough in the side mirrors (even though I don't have foldout tow mirrors) by leaning slightly and also by using the window in the camper door.

What I'm looking into is getting an OEM camera and the wiring harness that is inside the tailgate. My truck came with a rear camera so my intention is to unplug the tailgate camera like normal when I remove the tailgate. I'll mount the additional camera on the back of the camper and just plug in the harness to the factory plug in the truck. 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