I'm looking at a TT with 1 slide out, bunks and murphy bed, short as possible. These are the only two floor plans that I found; am I missing something? (Forest River has another plan but the TT is 28')https://www.venture-rv.com/sonic-travel-trailers/SN220VBH.htmlhttp://www.forestriverinc.com/product-details.aspx?LineID=170&Image=5063&ShowParent=1&ModelID=2239#MainA few questions:Do the rounded fronts of the TT make that big of a difference towing vs the flat-style? I would think so.Both have features I like and those I don't. I'm not a fan of the aluminum on the FR, there is less storage in the Sonic by Venture. Just looking for other opinions?

a5t1 wrote:I'm looking at a TT with 1 slide out, bunks and murphy bed, short as possible. These are the only two floor plans that I found; am I missing something?While a Murphy bed may seem like a good idea at first glance you'll lose significant storage because of it and have nowhere near the storage in a comparably sized trailer with a conventional front queen bed with storage underneath AND front pass through cargo compartment.Do the rounded fronts of the TT make that big of a difference towing vs the flat-style? I would think so.No difference at all ... with any full height travel trailer you're towing a barn door, regardless of how "rounded" that front wall may be.

Both of the TT I listed have pass through storage under the murphy bed.Personally, I'd prefer to have a little more open floor space and a couch vs the bed. Just my opinion. I could be in the minority as there are limited floor plans with this idea in mind.

We had a 24ft FR TT with the murphy bed. Size was good, however I found that if one of us was sleeping or resting with the bed down, sitting at the table was uncomfortable and disturbed the other person. Plus you had to get in at the end of the bed and it is higher than a normal bed height.

a5t1 wrote:Both of the TT I listed have pass through storage under the murphy bed.I never said they didn't. ;) The point is - any trailer with a Murphy bed will have a much smaller front pass through cargo compartment and NO under bed storage. Compare this to my own 19' Freedom Express which has a HUGE front pass through cargo compartment along with additional storage under the bed itself. :BPersonally, I'd prefer to have a little more open floor space and a couch vs the bed. Just my opinion. I could be in the minority as there are limited floor plans with this idea in mind.You are. :W

Bullet Crossfire 2070 BH2016 K-Z RV Spree Escape E200RBSSalem Hemisphere Lite 24BH 2012 forest river flagstaff micro lite 19fd travel trailer2014 Jayco WhiteHawk 20MRBSonic 220VBH Travel Trailer2017 Forest River Rockwood Ultra Lite 2304DS(Just a few by doing a Google Search).

TT with Murphy Bed - Forest River and Venture Sonic

ulvik
Explorer
Apr 23, 2017
We have a 2304DS and have traveled thousands of miles in it over the past two years. We love ours and travel about 4 months a year. Trust me with two slides and being short it is huge on the inside plus the bigger kitchen is a bonus. Plus it does have pass-through storage you just have to remove the two pieces of plywood the factory installed and it opens it all up. tons of storage on the inside too. Just no matter what trailer you settle on ditch the china pop tires and install a quality set. Trust me all of them come with crappy tires.
Kampfirekid
Explorer
Apr 08, 2017
theoldwizard1 wrote:
Kampfirekid wrote:
We are strongly considering the 24MBH (if I recall correctly) in the Jayco White Hawk. ...

Very nice floor plan. I would rather have storage under the bottom bunk instead of the outdoor kitchen.

There actually is storage behind the kitchen inside. A little project on a weekend could turn the approximate 18" wide x 27" tall x 74" long space into some easy storage. The bed lifts up for access, but I'm thinking a baggage door out back, and a rolling drawer inside. We like the kitchen... especially since it has a sink and is under the awning. We have never cooked inside a trailer in 12 years.
theoldwizard1
Explorer II
Apr 06, 2017
Kampfirekid wrote:
We are strongly considering the 24MBH (if I recall correctly) in the Jayco White Hawk. ...

Very nice floor plan. I would rather have storage under the bottom bunk instead of the outdoor kitchen.
Kampfirekid
Explorer
Apr 06, 2017
We are strongly considering the 24MBH (if I recall correctly) in the Jayco White Hawk. While it loses the full pass thru front storage, it still has front side storage, and what I really like is the outside storage in the slide out to under the U-shaped dinette. It maintains the outside kitchen with a sink, and has what we consider a great feature... the bathroom door out the back of the trailer.
theoldwizard1
Explorer II
Apr 05, 2017
a5t1 wrote:
Great points, thanks.

Very interested in the Rockwood Micro-lite 2509s.

Heading to a show next weekend, hope to see one there.

Did you get to see a 2509S "up close and personal" ?

Rustycamperpants wrote:
Here is a KZ Connect light that is under 27' and has what you are looking for. The U haped dinette is wonderful. Maybe this will help. We love our KZ camper.

https://www.kz-rv.com/products/connect-travel-trailers/lite-C211BH.html

Very similar floor plan to the 2509S, without the outside kitchen. GVWR is almost 1000# less.
turtletalk
Explorer
Jan 28, 2017
We really like our 2013 Flagstaff 25KS Micro Lite. The couch that folds open to permit the Murphy Bed to be lowered is also the one we use during the day for a nap. We can both stretch out on it.We also ditched the dinette table and found a good substitute. The large shower is what sold us on the camper.Everyone who looks at our camper in any campground is amazed at the room, convenience, and storage. We also store excess large gear in our tow vehicle.We have been very impressed with the folks at Forest River in Millersburg, IN where our camper was made.In our experience..great customer service!
3boxerss
Explorer
Jan 27, 2017
We have the 2017 Wildwood 201BHXL and love it. Got it in Sept. NO slideouts on it but the 230BHXL does and also has the murphy bed..
a5t1
Explorer
Jan 26, 2017
For us we need something with bunks for the kids. Heading to the Green Bay, WI RV show this weekend to physically see some of the floor plans discussed.
tnrv_er
Explorer II
Jan 24, 2017
Yes the "short queen" isn't my 1st preference but I would be willing to do that trade off. As far as the rear window view most of the campgrounds I use theres nothing to look at out the back window and the added comfort of the couch supersedes the view.
SoundGuy
Explorer
Jan 24, 2017
tnrv'er wrote:
I'd like to see RV manufactures offer the couch/folding table as an option in place of a dinnette.

One TT i like alot is the Outdoorsrv 20FQ but the U-shaped dinnette will prevent me from buying one.

tnrv'er wrote:
After posting this I put a phone call into Outdoorsrv. I got a call back an hour later from a gentleman named Ryan (spoke to him in the past, these guys DO return calls)and I told him my thoughts on offering a sofa/folding table as an option in place of the dinette. We'll see what happens. That option would be a deal sealer for me.

A couple of thoughts that struck me about that Outdoors RV 20FQ ... when sitting at the rear dinette you're making the most of that expansive rear window but if it was a sofa instead your backs would be to the window. :( Second thought - hate short queen beds which this 20FQ has and would avoid one whenever I can. Our 2014 Freedom Express has a short queen but I successfully managed to extend the platform so it's now a full queen length - new models of this same trailer now come with a full length queen bed as standard ... should be standard in all trailers with a queen bed. :R

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