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Turnbuckle advice

Ernie_Fergler
Explorer
Explorer
I recently purchased a used Arctic Fox 990. It came with happy jack standard turnbuckles. Only the front ones are spring loaded. According to etrailer website, they are not recommended for frame mounted tie downs (which I have, front and rear). Do I need to buy springs for the rear? I don’t understand why a bumper mount would take a different turnbuckle than a frame mount. Please enlighten me.
2016 Ram 3500 dually, Aisen, 4.10 gear, 4x4, 8 ft bed
2020 Grand Design Reflection 337RLS
2013 arctic fox 990>"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."
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Grit_dog
Navigator
Navigator
stevenal wrote:
Qwik-Loads

Front turnbuckles are spring loaded to help reduce stress on tie-down points
Rear turnbuckles are cushioned with rubber
Ensures proper amount of tension for bumper-mounted tie-downs while still minimizing stress on tie-down points


Perhaps it's possible to buy four fronts somewhere.


Still over $100 more expensive than the basic Torklift turnbuckle/spring mount combo sets.
If the OP wants a proper connection that is pre engineered, I think those are the most reasonably priced.
Maybe I forgot but I thought the point of the OPs query was economical tie downs.
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stevenal
Nomad II
Nomad II
Qwik-Loads

Front turnbuckles are spring loaded to help reduce stress on tie-down points
Rear turnbuckles are cushioned with rubber
Ensures proper amount of tension for bumper-mounted tie-downs while still minimizing stress on tie-down points


Perhaps it's possible to buy four fronts somewhere.
'18 Bigfoot 1500 Torklifts and Fastguns
'17 F350 Powerstroke Supercab SRW LB 4X4

greenno
Explorer
Explorer
Ehh incorrect on the HJ not being spring loaded.
I have had these "fastgun" style turnbuckles and they have internal springs on front and rear.
Typically want about 1/4" of stretch when properly tensioned and set in place.
Of course you can also lengthen and shorten overall length as required.

stevenal
Nomad II
Nomad II
I believe the HJ Quick-loads have springs on the front only.
'18 Bigfoot 1500 Torklifts and Fastguns
'17 F350 Powerstroke Supercab SRW LB 4X4

greenno
Explorer
Explorer
I went with the lower priced Happyjack “fastgun” style turnbuckles.
That being said I also went with the Torklift frame mount tie downs.
They have worked out just fine and saved a couple bucks too.

mbloof
Explorer
Explorer
Ernie Fergler wrote:
Thx guys. The Torklift springs seem a little pricey for what they are. Any alternatives?


"HappyJack" does make spring loaded turnbuckles for a fraction of the cost of the overpriced TL models.

Similar to TL, HappyJack makes short ones (generally used in the front bed mount) and long ones.



Take your pick.


- Mark0.

Ernie_Fergler
Explorer
Explorer
Thx one and all.I ordered torklift springs last night.
2016 Ram 3500 dually, Aisen, 4.10 gear, 4x4, 8 ft bed
2020 Grand Design Reflection 337RLS
2013 arctic fox 990>"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."

mellow
Explorer
Explorer
Keep an eye out on ebay or fb marketplace, some show up from time to time.
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mkirsch
Nomad II
Nomad II
Ernie Fergler wrote:
Thx guys. The Torklift springs seem a little pricey for what they are. Any alternatives?


Buy once, cry once.

Spend a little extra and never question your decision, or cheap out and kick yourself for years down the line...

How many tens of thousands did you spend on the truck and camper? Now's not the time to quibble over a few hundred dollars.

Putting 10-ply tires on half ton trucks since aught-four.

Geo_Boy
Explorer II
Explorer II
JimK-NY wrote:
Torklift parts might be expensive but they are well engineered and built to last.

This ^^^^^^^

deltabravo
Nomad
Nomad
I'll say the same thing here that I posted in reply to your question in the FB group:
Spring loaded are a must.
If it were me, I'd sell the Happijacs and get Torklift Fastguns for all 4 corners
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JimK-NY
Explorer II
Explorer II
Torklift parts might be expensive but they are well engineered and built to last.

Bedlam
Moderator
Moderator
Torklift makes at least three price ranges of turnbuckle that all carry lifetime warranties. Happijac also makes a spring loaded turnbuckle. The two more expensive offerings from Torklift make setting tension easy and consistent while the offerings require more work when loading and unloading your camper but still will safely do the job.

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joerg68
Nomad III
Nomad III
No alternatives from my side. I have been a happy TL Fastgun user since 2009 and recommend them.
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