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We Go Truck Camping in Northern Europe - TCM

67avion
Explorer II
Explorer II
Jane and I traveled last Fall to the Netherlands and rented a Tonke, known in Europe as a "demountable". The coach can be removed from the Mercedes Sprinter exactly as our American truck campers.

We traveled through Germany and spent time in Denmark. We asked members of RV.Net who were familiar with European travel about our trip. Their advice was invaluable.

We had a blast and wanted to share this article with the folks here on RV.Net

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silversand
Explorer
Explorer
Flaxi wrote:
hey folks.......seems that something goes wrong here......... 😉 In Germany, kids (!) get 6 weeks of holidays in summer !!! Working people get a total of between 25 and 30 days of vacation for the whole year. Many families spent their holidays in summer between 2 and 3 weeks of duration.


Ah. Interesting Felix. This is good to keep in mind.

Photos:

WOW! That is some super interesting terrain!

A "friend" of our family has been trying to acquire legal ownership of his family's home/property situated in East Germany, since "The Wall" fell. It was a very, very, very long and complex process, that has only recently been accomplished.

This has been one very well conducted trip report, and most interesting discussion.

Cheers,
Silver-
Silver
2004 Chevy Silverado 2500HD 4x4 6.0L Ext/LB Tow Package 4L80E Michelin AT2s| Outfitter Caribou

67avion
Explorer II
Explorer II
Thanks Felix for the information. We enjoyed our travels in your country.

flaxi
Explorer
Explorer
😄 Steve.
((the photo is not mine, just a web-link)) 😉

sabconsulting
Explorer
Explorer
Thanks for posting up that great photo Felix. I forgot how lovely that was; and just below there is the river. Wonderful region. But then I like a lot of the German countryside.

Steve.
'07 Ford Ranger XLT Supercab diesel + '91 Shadow Cruiser - Sky Cruiser 1
'98 Jeep TJ 4.0
'15 Ford Fiesta ST
'09 Fiat Panda 1.2

flaxi
Explorer
Explorer
hey folks.......seems that something goes wrong here......... 😉
In Germany, kids (!) get 6 weeks of holidays in summer !!!
Working people get a total of between 25 and 30 days of vacation for the whole year. Many families spent their holidays in summer between 2 and 3 weeks of duration.
As their are 16 "states" or "provinces" every state has a different start of the summer holidays in order to avoid traffic jams and to avoid overbooking of holiday resorts or hotels. So summer holidays in Germany are stretched between June and September, but every state with a max. of 6 weeks.
And - sorry - there are really no notable "work ethics" between eastern and western people (any more).
In the contrary, I strongly recommend to visit some eastern parts of Germany, the landscape and the villages are really beautiful !



and I recommend the wine region of Saale-Unstrut:

Kayteg1
Explorer II
Explorer II
Don't forget that even both German countries merged quite few years ago, they still have different work ethics, while old habits usually last for 30-40 years.

67avion
Explorer II
Explorer II
Sabconsulting wrote:

Getting 6 weeks total paid holiday (once you have been at the same company many years) is one thing - being allowed to use all that in one 6-week trip is something else - not something I would like to request. I can get away with just over 2 weeks at a time. In exceptional cases I might be able to take 3 weeks. Maybe things are different in Germany.


Hey Steve. Many thanks for all your help on the European trip. As to the vacation time in Germany, I looked back at my notes and I have "5 to 6 weeks". It surprised me so I asked Rolf Soujan and he affirmed it. I didn't write it all down, but I recall that he mentioned the influence of Hamburg on the region. It is one of the busiest ports in the world and is one of the centers of German manufacturing. Rolf said that it is heavily unionized and they have very good benefits.

It may be that the vacation time is different in the far west and north of Germany than in other areas. Or it could be that camping appeals far more to working class families who gather up time for their summer vacations - and perhaps take turns with the children.

Kayteg1
Explorer II
Explorer II
It is different.
Most of European countries will give 4-5 weeks vacations to long-term workers.
Paris is known to become partly dead city in the middle of the summer, when most of the residents head to beach resorts.
When I was growing up in communistic Poland, I was able to accumulate vacations coming from paid vacations and credits I got for education.
Finally when I took vacation, it made 45 work days, or over 2 months out of the office. Colleagues had to cover.
In US in today's economy lot of companies send the workers on unpaid vacations when the orders slow down.
Lot of my California friends have no problem to add non-paid to paid vacations and go to Europe for a month.
Per my family experience, traveling is really expanding one's thinking borders. Seeing how things can be done totally different than what we got used to can really change not only how you vacation, but how you do your job as well.
And again, with some knowledge you can vacation in Europe cheaper than in US.
This might be another shock for some >>>> tickets from NY to London are way cheaper than from NY to San Francisco.
Even Paris and Rome can come cheaper most of the time.

sabconsulting
Explorer
Explorer
Great trip report D.

silversand wrote:
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We talked to the director of Hammerhofen, Rolf Soujon, about camping in Germany. He explained that the largest crowds were in July when most families have 5-6 weeks of “holiday”...


....wow. I always love the "proper" holiday the Europeans get. Try and do this with your job in the US or Canada, and you'll find yourself on the street holding a box with your personal office items in it (unless you are on a university sabbatical, or similar). Even taking 4 straight weeks rankles A LOT of feathers. Ya have to break up your holiday (if you're lucky enough to have 4, 5, 6 weeks) into 2 week stints in today's economy :B


Getting 6 weeks total paid holiday (once you have been at the same company many years) is one thing - being allowed to use all that in one 6-week trip is something else - not something I would like to request. I can get away with just over 2 weeks at a time. In exceptional cases I might be able to take 3 weeks. Maybe things are different in Germany.

Steve.
'07 Ford Ranger XLT Supercab diesel + '91 Shadow Cruiser - Sky Cruiser 1
'98 Jeep TJ 4.0
'15 Ford Fiesta ST
'09 Fiat Panda 1.2

silversand
Explorer
Explorer
Wow! Beautiful camper, beautiful story, beautiful photos!!

I was shaken when a Mercedes passed us at over 180 KPH (115 mph) practically blowing my doors off. It came up so fast that I did not see the sedan approaching.


...hah. Last month, on our way back from Florida, just crossing the North Carolina line, a "red low sports car" blew by us at what I guestimate to be ~250+ kph. We were doing the 70 MPH (113 kph) limit (in the SUV)....

We talked to the director of Hammerhofen, Rolf Soujon, about camping in Germany. He explained that the largest crowds were in July when most families have 5-6 weeks of “holiday”...


....wow. I always love the "proper" holiday the Europeans get. Try and do this with your job in the US or Canada, and you'll find yourself on the street holding a box with your personal office items in it (unless you are on a university sabbatical, or similar). Even taking 4 straight weeks rankles A LOT of feathers. Ya have to break up your holiday (if you're lucky enough to have 4, 5, 6 weeks) into 2 week stints in today's economy :B
Silver
2004 Chevy Silverado 2500HD 4x4 6.0L Ext/LB Tow Package 4L80E Michelin AT2s| Outfitter Caribou

Kayteg1
Explorer II
Explorer II
Everything is more expensive in Europe and Tonke, being one of the kind on the market, hand build sure is not going to be cheap.
Looking at the picture, looks to me that Tonke has US boat build quality.
Sure far way from stapled toothpicks and particle board technology used in popular TC.

67avion
Explorer II
Explorer II
I really don't know the price of the Tonke. It is built to order, I understand, and its subject to currency shifts. However, I think its in the US$60 - $75K without the Mercedes Sprinter. The only truck camper that comes close in price is the XP V2 that retailed around $42K. It may be that the Tonke is the most expensive truck camper in existence if you don't include the big Expo vehicles.

And you're right. Many of the Avions will be around for their 100th anniversaries, I suspect.

noteven
Explorer III
Explorer III
Yes - sshhhh - don't mention the price on rv.net it might set off some fussing about "pricey" (what does that mean anyways?...) 🙂 🙂

heck your Avion was "pricey" when it was new ... and it si still in use...

67avion
Explorer II
Explorer II
The huge opening in the back created by the twin back doors was really nice when sitting at the table for meals or just looking at the scenery. Its like sitting on a balcony. I don't know if there is anything comparable to it in our RV's.

The cook area and toilet are midway and the bed is in the front. If anything, I think it had too much storage. I never thought I'd say that about a truck camper.

The Tonke camper is handmade, and very expensive, I understand. A real luxury.

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