So, long story short I took the day off yesterday and the family and I went tov Landmark in Morrow, GA to "look"at their Ram 3500s. We've got a Sierra 5th wheel on order.The regular salespeople seemed totally clueless and we almost left, but then they got the commercial sales guy's help. We wound up buying a truck they had on order that wasn't even on the lot... How nerve tracking to buy something sight unseen!Anyway, I'm supposed to drop the 250 off Monday in exchange for a rental car they're providing. The 3500 should be here within the next two weeks. The best tracking they had was that it was in-transit via rail network somewhere in Georgia.Since I don't have a picture of it, here's the window sticker instead (scroll to bottom).LinkyVery excited!Edit - window sticker link stopped working

Nice! Getting to be lots of guys with Cummins trucks around here. :BThat's going to be a huge step up over your gas rig.

Congrats on new truck!! DRW or SRW?

You will be amazed! The low end torque is phenomenal. Hold on to your hat on the first pull and drive it Hard. It likes it. Congrats!!!

netaq wrote:So, long story short I took the day off yesterday and the family and I went tov Landmark in Morrow, GA to "look"at their Ram 3500s. We've got a Sierra 5th wheel on order.The regular salespeople seemed totally clueless and we almost left, but then they got the commercial sales guy's help. We wound up buying a truck they had on order that wasn't even on the lot... How nerve tracking to buy something sight unseen!Anyway, I'm supposed to drop the 250 off Monday in exchange for a rental car they're providing. The 3500 should be here within the next two weeks. The best tracking they had was that it was in-transit via rail network somewhere in Georgia.Since I don't have a picture of it, here's the window sticker instead (scroll to bottom).LinkyVery excited!Congrats... You are going to love it. By the window sticker, yours is equipped very similarly to mine.... Mine is dually tho.I love the Aisin!!!You can get the B&W hitch that slips right into your factory prep. That's what I did and it's a great hitch and very quiet.

netaq wrote:The regular salespeople seemed totally clueless and we almost left, but then they got the commercial sales guy's help.Isn't it amazing what a good, helpful salesman can do? Too often on this board people love to just trash all salesman and it's not always needed. I just a bought a new 5th wheel and have to say the salesman played a huge role in it. Low pressure, helpful and just an all around good guy. He even questioned whether or not my truck had the capacity to tow what I was looking at. I actually had to convince him!! Congratulations on the new ride.... that's super nice! It's amazing how expensive those "just looking" trips to the dealer can be :)

Went truck shopping, bought 2016 Ram 3500 | Good Sam Community

Bedlam
Moderator
Feb 23, 2016
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Bedlam wrote:
RoyBell wrote:
Aisin with the 4.10 has to be pretty fun off the line.

Due to torque management, throttle response is not that impressive. My 6.0 PSD with 5R110 and 3.73 gears had more pep than than my 6.7 CTD with Aisin and 4.44's. Disabling traction control and engaging tow/haul seems to make it the most responsive, but they still stifle throttle input.

When you have 32,500# combined and are sitting on a grade you push the go pedal and the load just takes off is where the 4.10's SHINE!

No doubt my off the line pulling power is greater and less stressful to the drive train. The slower acceleration has more to do with longer stroke and regulated throttle compared to my last engine. I own other vehicles that get up to speed quicker if that was my only desire, but there are a few occasions where a short freeway on ramp on an uphill grade make me miss my little PSD.
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Feb 23, 2016
Me Again wrote:
C Schomer wrote:
My wife ordered a new Ram on Saturday, too... 3500 CC LB DRW 68RFE 4wd 3.73 Air suspension. It should be awesome with her 14k gvw 5er and she'll have room for more, later. The dealer had one on the lot with Aisin/4.10... it sure was tempting but I already have a keeper! Craig

She will spend the money for rear air and NOT the tranny upgrade. Makes little sense to me! She should have gone for the 4:10/Aisin!

Chris

You beat me to it!

I have owned both trans. The 68 did the job but the Aisin does it MUCH better with the lower starting gears and the more solid shift points. Oh also the extra HP and TQ are nice!

I have said it before the 3.73's based on personal experience are not needed. My 11 HO with3.42's and 68 towed 28-29K combined, the only issue was starting on a grade. I towed in 5th the exact same rpm's as the 4.10's in 6th. Example 1,750 @ 60. If ordering a RAM Dually and I knew for a fact I would never exceed around 27K combined I would get the Aisin with 3.42's any more weight then 4.10's and Aisin.

C Shomer you will love the factory rear air ride!!! I would Seriously consider changing to the Aisin!
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Feb 23, 2016
Bedlam wrote:
RoyBell wrote:
Aisin with the 4.10 has to be pretty fun off the line.

Due to torque management, throttle response is not that impressive. My 6.0 PSD with 5R110 and 3.73 gears had more pep than than my 6.7 CTD with Aisin and 4.44's. Disabling traction control and engaging tow/haul seems to make it the most responsive, but they still stifle throttle input.

When you have 32,500# combined and are sitting on a grade you push the go pedal and the load just takes off is where the 4.10's SHINE!
C_Schomer
Explorer
Feb 23, 2016
It will have plenty of weight capacities to spare and I've never read of a problem with the 68RFE but I have with the Aisin. Craig
Bedlam
Moderator
Feb 23, 2016
RoyBell wrote:
Aisin with the 4.10 has to be pretty fun off the line.

Due to torque management, throttle response is not that impressive. My 6.0 PSD with 5R110 and 3.73 gears had more pep than than my 6.7 CTD with Aisin and 4.44's. Disabling traction control and engaging tow/haul seems to make it the most responsive, but they still stifle throttle input.
Me_Again
Explorer III
Feb 23, 2016
C Schomer wrote:
My wife ordered a new Ram on Saturday, too... 3500 CC LB DRW 68RFE 4wd 3.73 Air suspension. It should be awesome with her 14k gvw 5er and she'll have room for more, later. The dealer had one on the lot with Aisin/4.10... it sure was tempting but I already have a keeper! Craig

She will spend the money for rear air and NOT the tranny upgrade. Makes little sense to me! She should have gone for the 4:10/Aisin!

Chris
RoyBell
Explorer
Feb 23, 2016
Aisin with the 4.10 has to be pretty fun off the line.
C_Schomer
Explorer
Feb 23, 2016
My wife ordered a new Ram on Saturday, too... 3500 CC LB DRW 68RFE 4wd 3.73 Air suspension. It should be awesome with her 14k gvw 5er and she'll have room for more, later. The dealer had one on the lot with Aisin/4.10... it sure was tempting but I already have a keeper! Craig
45Ricochet
Explorer
Feb 23, 2016
Arcamper wrote:

Yep don't try and get the Cummins to 5k RPM's, it might not end well!

Ain't going to happen even if you tried :W Maybe down a 10% grade towing max weight, but even then it's not fueled rpm.
Try a red line of 2200 sometime, it get's your attention constantly pulling mountains.
Searching_Ut
Explorer
Feb 23, 2016
Arcamper wrote:
netaq wrote:
Me Again wrote:
EB without tow haul does not throw one through the windshield down shifting down through the gears, and still requires service brakes on off ramps. With TH is requires service brakes only at the very end.

I'm super excited about not having anymore 4k-5k rpm upshifts & downshifts, I was towing in manual mode all of the time in the 250. I won't miss that...

Oh and I found out today that the 2016 6.7/AS69RC combination has 385 hp / 900 lb-ft torque....I had mistakenly thought torque was 865 lb-ft like 2015 model year. My goodness that's a lot!

Yep don't try and get the Cummins to 5k RPM's, it might not end well!

You will love it though and the Aisin is awesome behind the Cummins.

That was one of the first big eye openers I got when I first got my old 20011 CTD. Thinking like a gasser driver I manually shifted down when I went to pass a semi. She was pulling strong and smooth at first but it was like the engine just ran out of oomph. Looking down I saw the tach right at the redline of 3200rpm. Seems the computer just eases off the power and protects the engine from old gas engine drivers who expect a lot of noise before they start thinking max rpm.