What does this unit weigh? Cargo capacity include water?

sportsman16 wrote:
Trying to figure out what the as built dry weight is of a 2014 Creekside 27bh. Most trailers I have looked at have a yellow sticker listing the weight from factory as built. This unit has a sticker that states the cargo capacity should not exceed 1,094 lbs. It then cautions that a full load of water equals 666 lbs of cargo @8.3lbs/gal.
The GVWR of the trailer is 8,800.

I assumed the dry weight as built must be 8800-1,094 or 7,706 dry. This is significantly heavier that the 6,935 brochure weight.

Salesman called Outdoor RV and states that they weighed this unit at the factory and is 6,980 as built. They state that their cargo capacity sticker is after a full load of water and propane.

They claim, 8800gross
-666 water
-60 propane
-6,980 dry
= 1,094 cargo capacity

So does this thing weigh 7700 lbs or 6980 lbs? It's not that I don't trust the dealer and his call to the factory, however, I have never seen it explained like this. I thought water needed to be added against the cargo capacity?

Thoughts?

Gdetrailer wrote:
There WILL be a LOT of folks who are going to disagree with my position BUT..

Lantley wrote:
The 6935 brochure figure is a bit fictional. It is the weight of a unit with no options. The trailer you are looking at has 7706-6935 or 771 pounds of options.
The weight of these options must be accounted for and are deducted from the GVW.
Leaving you a net CCC of 1094 if you have a full load of water you need to deduct another 666 pounds leaving only 428 pounds for cargo.(1094-666=428)

Lantley wrote:
The 6935 brochure figure is a bit fictional. It is the weight of a unit with no options. The trailer you are looking at has 7706-6935 or 771 pounds of options.
The weight of these options must be accounted for and are deducted from the GVW.
Leaving you a net CCC of 1094 if you have a full load of water you need to deduct another 666 pounds leaving only 428 pounds for cargo.(1094-666=428)

sportsman16 wrote:

Lantley wrote:
The 6935 brochure figure is a bit fictional. It is the weight of a unit with no options. The trailer you are looking at has 7706-6935 or 771 pounds of options.
The weight of these options must be accounted for and are deducted from the GVW.
Leaving you a net CCC of 1094 if you have a full load of water you need to deduct another 666 pounds leaving only 428 pounds for cargo.(1094-666=428)

Yes, this is how I understand it. However, the dealer and factory claim otherwise. They claim their 1,094 cargo capacity is in addition to having 666 lbs of water on board.

lbrjet wrote:
Take it to the scale and find out.

Gdetrailer wrote:

lbrjet wrote:
Take it to the scale and find out.

:h

Hmm.. I can imagine THAT conversation..

Buyer to dealer..

Hey Mr Salesman, is it OK to "borrow" (tow) A NEW trailer off the lot in order to weigh it BEFORE I commit to buying it?

Salesman to the Buyer after the salesman along with the entire sales floor pick themselves off the floor laughing..

That's funny but we are PAST April Fools day!

Umm, so, that's not gonna happen until you hand over the entire agreed on price and sign a few documents.. :S

Put YOURSELF in the DEALERS SHOES.

Would YOU be willing to lend a NEW camper which YOU BOUGHT and YOU are paying INTEREST on and let John Q public tow it off into the sunset without paying for it?

The dealer is running a business and that trailer represents a lot of the businesses money tied up in it..