I ATTENDED THE OHIO RV SHOW IN CLEVELAND LAST WEEK. ONE RV DEALERSHIP IN PARTICULAR HAD PICTURES OF WHAT TYPE OF VEHICLE COULD PULL EACH RV THAT WAS ON DISPLAY. THE PICTURES OF THE TOW VEHICLES WERE PLACED NEXT TO THE ENTRY DOORS. I CAME ACROSS A COUPLE OF 7500 OR 8000 LBS UNITS THAT HAD PICTURES OF 1/2 TON TRUCKS AND I JUST LAUGHED. WHEN I CAME ACROSS THIS UNIT I HAD TO SHARE IT. THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF OVERSALES. THE SALESPERSONS WILL SELL YOU ANYTHING EVEN IF IT IS A DEATHTRAP FOR YOUR FAMILY. COMENTS PLEASE!

I see this scenario every day at Campgrounds across the country, 1/2 Ton Trucks pulling large 35Ft plus trailers and 5th Wheels, 3/4 Ton Trucks pulling large triple axle 40FT plus Toy Haulers, even recently saw a Honda Odyssey pulling a 30Ft Airstream TT.

Well tow numbers on the new chevy/gmc are accually high I have a 2014 serria 1500 which is rated to tow 9600lbs with my engine/rear end and can go up to 11,000lbs with the lower gear ratios giving the fact that tounge weights are low enough the right 1500 "could" tow it legally. Although it would have to be empty or close to it haha

IT IS A DEATHTRAP FOR YOUR FAMILY. COMENTS PLEASE! Okay,I'll bite...Why is it a death trap to tow a 7500lb trailer with a modern HD so called 1/2 ton?

A regular cab 2wd 1500 series truck properly equipped should actually be able to handle that.Toronto show was the same but mostly pic's of 3/4 ton trucks pulling 5th wheels.....all would be good if no one actually loaded anything in their rigs.

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Nvr2loud
Explorer II
Jan 27, 2015
acdiehl1228 wrote:
itguy08 wrote:
phenrichs wrote:
Rob_Fla wrote:
even recently saw a Honda Odyssey pulling a 30Ft Airstream TT.

I saw a commercial with the same thing the other night. DW and I laughed about that one.

ROFL. Good luck with that. Honda Odyssey transmissions are garbage as they leave the factory and don't hold up well. I could only imagine adding the weight of an RV + family to that POS....

I'm just going to leave this here.

I have seen a similar airstream behind a volvo wagon, also in Ontario
acdiehl1228
Explorer
Jan 27, 2015
itguy08 wrote:
phenrichs wrote:
Rob_Fla wrote:
even recently saw a Honda Odyssey pulling a 30Ft Airstream TT.

I saw a commercial with the same thing the other night. DW and I laughed about that one.

ROFL. Good luck with that. Honda Odyssey transmissions are garbage as they leave the factory and don't hold up well. I could only imagine adding the weight of an RV + family to that POS....

I'm just going to leave this here.
RobertRyan
Explorer
Jan 26, 2015
This is common in Europe. Engine is a small 3 litre diesel. RAWR exceds that of an F450
itguy08
Explorer
Jan 26, 2015
phenrichs wrote:
Rob_Fla wrote:
even recently saw a Honda Odyssey pulling a 30Ft Airstream TT.

I saw a commercial with the same thing the other night. DW and I laughed about that one.

ROFL. Good luck with that. Honda Odyssey transmissions are garbage as they leave the factory and don't hold up well. I could only imagine adding the weight of an RV + family to that POS....
phenrichs
Explorer
Jan 26, 2015
Rob_Fla wrote:
even recently saw a Honda Odyssey pulling a 30Ft Airstream TT.

I saw a commercial with the same thing the other night. DW and I laughed about that one.
RobertRyan
Explorer
Jan 26, 2015
just me wrote:
Helmsey wrote:
RobertRyan wrote:
This is quite common in Australia, not really a problem, but would have concerns about US 1/2 ton doing it

I don't mean to alarm you but someone has installed your doors and awning on the wrong side of your camper :D

Well, they do anything DOWNUNDER, they drive on the wrong side of the road too.

Actually we drive on the CORRECT side of the road. Hate you to drive on your side of the road in Australia, you would be an instant accident statistic
kennyd63
Explorer
Jan 26, 2015
They will tell you what you want to hear, as long as they get the sale that they are looking for. After you buy it, good luck when your engine and transmission on your TW start giving you trouble:S
Nvr2loud
Explorer II
Jan 26, 2015
shum02 wrote:
Nvr2loud wrote:

What I said in my original statement was CAPABLE (clearly my truck is capable since I do it without any issues) and LEGAL are two different words. If I was involved in a serious incident, my overloading MAY be held against me legally. Not likely, but possible.

This and other forums are full of this rhetoric. Your over by a little and get into an accident that was your fault, by what? Your actions, a blown tire, negligence, broken spring on the trailer? Does not matter, even if they do put it all back together and somehow manage to determine you're over weight by 300lbs insurance will cover it and you will not find yourself charged with anything unless your driving actions caused it, even still insurance will cover it.

It's insurance, in some places in they'll still cover you if you were drunk.

I've yet to hear one credible "story" of anyone being charged with overloading an RV and NEVER in Canada. Can Am in London regularly "overloads" vehicles(it's their specialty) and they have never been charged with anything. Urban legends, nothing more.

What is your point?

I have stated 3 times now that LEGAL and CAPABLE are different words. I don't disagree with you, and I don't think many people ever get caught / charged overloaded. The law is there to stop extreme behavior, not to catch the average family slightly overloaded.

We could also discuss speed limits in Ontario, and I would straight up tell you the maximum speed LEGALLY is 100 kph and then you would go on to explain that the OPP won't even bother enforcing that until you exceed 120 kph... and again I wouldn't disagree, but LEGALLY you can not speed just like LEGALLY you can not exceed axle ratings.
PAThwacker
Explorer
Jan 26, 2015
Caveman Charlie wrote:
PAThwacker wrote:

I'm a modern day wagon driver and I love the extended roofline. Would never own a cuv and both of my suv have frames.

My sister when she was young would go canoeing at the Boundary Waters Area here in MN. She had a 1970 Ford Maverick and she would tie 2 canoe's to the roof and drive up there. She has a picture of it and it's hilarious. We always joked then when she got to the waters edge she should just flip the whole thing upside down and take the car with her out on the water.

I can only fit one canoe on my wagon. The current barge has a max width of 38". When I have the canoe on the sub I can fit two Thule big mouth bike holders.
just_me
Explorer
Jan 25, 2015
Helmsey wrote:
RobertRyan wrote:
This is quite common in Australia, not really a problem, but would have concerns about US 1/2 ton doing it

I don't mean to alarm you but someone has installed your doors and awning on the wrong side of your camper :D

Well, they do anything DOWNUNDER, they drive on the wrong side of the road too.

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