All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: Diesel vs gas...................... eightballsidepocket wrote: Just wonder how that 6.7 Cummins, and Dodge 68RFE 6-speed Auto, or the Dodge commercial, Cab-only Aisin 6-speed Auto with PTO will compare to GM's Allison currently hooked to the Duramax? I have heard some VERY good reviews. TomRe: Diesel vs gas...................... BertP wrote: I said subsidize not pay for. It was meant as a sarcastic remark to underline the foolishness of replacing all those parts every year. It is not necessary unless the truck is being used in a very severe duty environment. [Bert Let me see now: It is foolish to keep ones tow operating at Max effecieny? Now don't try to tell me that parts don't start to deteriorate as soon as they are installed. Why wait for 2 years to replace an 80% deteriorated part. Why not get it a 50% or below and keep rolling at max efficency. I have seen and visited with those setting in repair garages along the road with thier rig behind them getting wires, plugs and the like replaced because they also thought as you mentioned above.."It's foolish". So I guess just wait till it breaks to fix it, right Burt? TomRe: Diesel vs gas...................... BertP wrote: Are you trying to tell me that the GM 8.1 gasser is harder on trannies than my DMax? They both have exactly the same tranny behind them so if a gasser truck requires more maintenance on its tranny than a diesel, that must be what you are trying to tell us. Stating carte blanche that the trannies and RE's of trucks with gassers require more maintenance than those in diesel powered trucks is nonsense. Bert Well, wait just a second there Slick. You might read my original post again. Hey man I was talking about MY gasser and not every one that is on the market. Heck I even said what I had and compared it to the deisels that I run with and again that post was based on experience. You flew into to me shortly after I made that post with all kinds of assumptions of what I said along with condescending remarks and sarcastic statements. TomRe: Diesel vs gas...................... BertP wrote: Are you trying to tell me that the GM 8.1 gasser is harder on trannies than my DMax? They both have exactly the same tranny behind them so if a gasser truck requires more maintenance on its tranny than a diesel, that must be what you are trying to tell us. Stating carte blanche that the trannies and RE's of trucks with gassers require more maintenance than those in diesel powered trucks is nonsense. Bert Well Burt old boy, I never said anything about the 8.1 or the DuroMax. I am Very well aware that both have allisons. Oh by the way there is a BIG difference between the allison and what is hooked behind my gasser. That for sure that is not comparing apples to apples. Big difference in towing in 3rd gear at 65 in this gasser than with an allison. Im sure you have all the tech manual stuff and can bring me up to steam on that. It's just a matter of preventive maintenance for my gasser. I have the trans fluid changed every 6,000 mile. Whether it needs it or not. As you said that might be foolish but I guess you have never seen anyone on the side of the road with a burnt out trans waiting on a tow truck. I have see a few in my time and that is a good signal to have my trans fluid changed. It's cost worthy, trans get very expensive compared to fluid change costs. This is speaking from experience. Of course the tech manuals might say different. And it might be nonsense to you but I am rolling along with no problem compared to what I have seen from those who thought differently. So what are you telling me: That a 1500 van with a 5.2 L engine and a factory transmission towing a 6,000 lbs travel trailer over a 11,000 ft pass does not have more work on the trans than a 2500 Chevy with a DMax enigne and an Allison trans towing a 10,000 lbs trailer...BS for sure. If I had my trans and rear end serviced and the oil changed at the same intervals as that diesel did I would be one of those sitting on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck.. TomRe: Diesel vs gas......................"Good Lord, what do they replace on the diesels each year? Injectors and turbo(s)" Well Burt old boy maybe you have to do that to yours every year but all the guys and gals that I know and run with that have diesels havn't replaced any Injectors or turbos yet and hey we have been on the road for at least 4 years. Just can't name a one of them that has had to do that and there must be a least 30 of em running with all different models. Well I guess maybe they just might take a little bit better care of theirs than some do. What do you think. Or do you think it might be that they are actually towing and using the diesel for what is was designed to do. TOW. TomRe: Diesel vs gas......................"Why on earth would anyone replace all those parts on their gasser each year unless they want to subsidise their mechanic's two month holiday to the Mayan Riviera every winter?" Well Burt old boy all I can say is when the gasser I have rolls over 300,000 Miles then it's worth it. Please let me know where and how I can get two months holiday at the Mayan Rivera for 379.00. "When was the last time you saw a gasser with a rotor and distributer? Unless, of course, the author is trying to keep up with the late model diesels in his model T. Then it would make sense. Part number DCC-4876255AB Mopar Performance Distributor cap and rotarty set for 5.2 L 318 2002 Dodge 1500B Van Mopar small block magnum. You might want to check out what is under the hood of some of these gassers before make condescending remarks and bold statements concerning inaccuracy in posts. You might even consider reading or looking over an owners manual. You never know hoss. Good thing the author of this article isn't biased! Not biased there Burt old boy, just take real good care of my tow. You see I use mine to tow with, not to run around in town. Try pulling a few 11,000 to 13,000 ft mountain passes towing and then you might get an Idea of what the difference is between diesle and gas. Get some experince on that, then reread my original post and let me know..Okay.. TomRe: Diesel vs gas...................... DavidPhillips wrote: Diesels better. Naa Na Na Naa Naa JCB DIESELMAX Sets Speed Record for a Diesel-Powered Car The JCB DIESELMAX gets its power from two 5.0-liter four-cylinder twin-turbocharged JCB444 diesel engines usually found in back-loaders, or earth-shovels. Article at MSN http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4024418 Wish I had just one of those 5.O liter 4 cylinder engines and they came off of a back loader. Now that sounds hard to believe. One for the front wheel drive and one for the back. I would put my money on a diesle any day. No comparison for the work load. I have caravaned in my gasser with diesels towing travel trailers and they (diesel) will just keep going with no lag at all. Set the cruise and roll. My gasser always drags back when faced with any size incline. I have a 32.5 gallon tank and most of the rigs I have caravaned with have the same or less. At fuel stops I was always the one that took the most fuel. Everyone of the diesel guys on a long haul always got much better mpg than me. My GCVW (tow and rig) is 9,882 lbs - Max is 11,125 (tow is a Dodge 1500B Van 318 5.2 L with a 3.55 gear - rig is 23ft Mallard) and I run with deisels that are towing fifth wheels that weigh 14,000 and more. They have a much smoother run and use less fuel and the time difference between oil and filter changes makes up for the cost. I have a complete tune up on the gasser every year plugs, wires, rotary and rotary cap with factory parts and that gets expensive ,not so for the diesel. Not to mention the trans and rear end stuff that has to be done more frequently than diesles and on and on and on. Tom
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