All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: Awning useOur current awning is also electric she very easy to extend. Plus, it automatically retracts if it gets too windy. As a result, we use it whenever we are parked. Helps keep the coach cooler too when it's really hot out and great for sitting outside in a light rain if you want to stay dry.17 Tiffin Phaeton or Berkshire XLT?Hello, we are looking at a new 17 Tiffin Phaeton 440H and also a Berkshire XLT 43C-450. We are replacing our 2010 Newmar Canyon Star 3920 gasser toy hauler. Both coaches are obvious steps up from our current coach but the Tiffin is $26K more than the Berkshire when all is said and done. The last thing we want is buyers remorse for either overspending or trying to save money and not get as much quality and we thought we were getting. Can anyone shed any light on pluses and minuses after owning and experiencing these coaches? We know the major differences such as the chassis, independent front versus non-independent front. Aqua Hot versus Truma continuous hot water heater, rear radiator versus side and others. Any input would be greatly appreciated.Re: Complete List of Toy HaulersAddition to the Motorized category - Newmar Canyon Star Toy Hauler Model # 3920. www.newmarcorp.com Class A Gas unit with bedroom, sleeps 7-8 (more if some are children) and hauls up to 2 full sized motorcycles or large ATV's.Re: Complete List of Toy HaulersMotorized Toy Hauler - Class A (gas engine only) Newmar - Canyon Star Model 3920. 40' - 10' toy section in the rear w/heat & A/C, electric double queen bunks. Rear built in ramp door. 5 seperate beds (sleeps 10)with an actual "bedroom" - unusual for any Toy Hauler. www.newmarcorp.com http://www.newmarcorp.com/models/motorhomes/Canyon%20Star/23Re: What did you do to your Class A MH today???We have A 2010 Newmar Class A Canyon Star Toy Hauler model. Changed the oil and filter in the generator and also in the Ford V10. Both were the first changes since it's a new unit we bought in March.Re: Complete List of Toy HaulersClass A gas Toy Hauler - Newmar Canyon Star model 3920. 40' with a 10' rear cargo area, deluxe ramp door that is disguised so it looks just like the back of a standard Class A, seperate master "bedroom" and the rear cargo area has it's own seperate AC/heat, 2 queen electric bunk beds. One of the few Class a units being made currently. www.newmarcorp.comRe: Choosing Gasoline or Diesel Powered?Excellent information a a great read. One issue you didn't mention is sometime depending on where you drive and if not always on the Interstate system you might not always find diesel fuel at every gas station. It's never much of an issue unless you are down to empty and no diesel fuel in sight. We were towing our 30' TT with our then new 04 diesel Ford Excursion on our first cross country road trip. Road signs said diesel fuel at the next exit 10 miles ahead. We got off only to find a problem at the station and all their diesel pumps were out of service. Back on the highway and 40 more miles down the road before the next fuel stop. I love our diesel but we always plan our fuel stops in advance when not in familiar territory and plan for something like a station that is supposed to be pumping having problems - have a back up plan within your fuel window. Just my 2 cents as they say.Re: Diesel vs gas......................I have owned numerous gas vehicles over the last 30 years from older 454 Chevy's, 440 Mopar's to 8.1L GM and V10 Excursions. Last year we bought our 04 6.0L Excursion diesel. I also am 44 and have been towing trailers small and large, open and enclosed up to 8,000 lbs in the summer and winter, flat land and mountains. As a result I have a pretty vast experience with gas engines and so far 19,000 on ouor diesel 6.0L Excursion. Gas Pros: Quiet. Great high rpm power - good for passing at highway speeds. Less expensive when purchasing. Never an issue with how cold it is out in winter months. Little smell from exhaust. Can fuel up at any gas station and usually find regular grade as the lowest priced of all fuels. Gas Cons: Less torque but large motors much better than a few years ago. Poor fuel economy, especially when towing heavy loads and trailers with lots of wind resistance. Typically single digit numbers even on the highway. Poor fuel economy if driven around town frequently Need higher RPM's for highway trailer towing so either no overdrive use or frequent hunting in and out of gears. Causes excessive transmission wear. Lower resale value than diesel. Diesel Pros: Fantastic torque, great for towing large trailers and heavy loads. Dramatically improved fuel economy versus gas vehicles. My results are 40% better in town driving & up to 60% better on the highway vs. gas big blocks! 100,000 mile warranty Towing in overdrive at highway speeds never a problem, regardless of the weight or size of the trailer. Higher resale value versus gas. Our Excursion has an 800 plus mile range PER tank non-towing and around 500 when towing our camper. VERY nice... Diesel Cons: Noiser than gas motors - some almost as quiet as gas engines so that varies by brand. Not an issue at all if used mainly for highway driving. Can be a problem locally at a drive through with some - Fords seem to have the most noise at idle and low speeds. Diesel fuel not sold at all stations. Diesel often more expensive than regular grade gas. May (not common) but may have starting or running problems if used in extremly cold climates (i.e. sub zero daily). Not essential but they do like to have block heaters plugged in during winter months overnight. Smell with windows up or while hooking up trailers. Never an issue on the highway or with AC on. Now, for just a personal view. If you tow large and heavy loads nothing compares to a diesel, nothing. That's because of the high torque at very low rpm levels. The are also great for highway towing because of hardly any trans downshifting in winds or on hills. The fuel economy is fantastic. Would I drive one daily around town? Yes. Will my wife? No. She hates the smell, noise and not being able to run the kids through the drive thru's. But, she LOVES it on the highway. If we never towed we would use gas. Even with the lesser mileage it's pretty even cost since they are less expensive to buy. IF you tow - go diesel!!!! You will NEVER go back.
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