All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: Deposit down- Now I'm no sure I can tow it. manual not clear Whammon1 wrote: I tow a Northtrail 31QBS with my 2012 Tundra 5.7. Gross weight is near 7000 lbs. My Tundra has a trailer tow weight of 10,100 lbs with the towing package. With that said I have no problems towing on the east coast. Flat land or mountains the Tundra can handle it. The big thing is to verify that your Tundra has the factory tow package. I work for Toyota so if you have more questions please p.m. and I will get the information you need as far as the towing capacities of your Tundra. It definitely does NOT have the factory tow package. The 5000 listed on the window sticker I'm guessing is the bumper tow weight? Would that make sense? It wouldn't be the class iii hitch weight as that was put on aftermarket by the previous owner i do believe . Even though I'm not getting this particular trailer, i do still want to sort out exactly what I CAN tow for next time and deciphering this window sticker versus owner manual is whats so confusing.Re: Deposit down- Now I'm no sure I can tow it. manual not clear rbpru wrote: Yangop, From all this rhetoric you should be able to step back, take a breath and understand that you need to know, • The GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), this is the maximum total weight your vehicle was designed to carry. This should be on a sticker on your vehicle. • The Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW), it is the weight of your vehicle when it left the factory, plus people, cargo, or stuff that was added such as a truck cap, bed liner etc. If you do not know this number; weight the vehicle at a truck (CAT) scale. The difference between these two numbers is how much more weight (tongue weight) you can add to your vehicle and still remain within your vehicle’s design limits. You will hear all sorts of opinions such as. • If you do not have a 50, 70 or 80% cushion, your combo is unsafe. This is not true. What is true is the closer you come to the design limits the more wear and tear on the vehicles component parts. • This that or the other combination will give you a “white knuckle” ride. What is a scary ride for some folks is just a heavy pull for others. It is the same for truck, bus and wind buffets, rain, snow and a host of other things that upset some but are taken in stride by others. Finally, keep in mind that the TT dealer is looking at the same vehicle charts you are. • He probably has dozens of happy customers that are pulling less than their max towing weight but have no clue as to what their max cargo capacity is. • Since max cargo capacity is based on the specific vehicle’s options, the TT dealer does not have a clue. • Likewise the dealer does not know if you haul everything but the kitchen sink or you are a minimalist. Your answer is all in the numbers and your personality, either you have a vehicle that has the necessary towing options for the TT you wish to purchase or it does not. Either you are satisfied with your proposed combination or you are not. Example, my F-150 E-Boost is maxed out with my 5000 lbs dry weight TT and all our stuff. The combo has performed well on both sort and long hauls for the last 15,000 miles. thank you for this. my experience here has been very fruitfulRe: Deposit down- Now I'm no sure I can tow it. manual not clear lawrosa wrote: Whats the make model of TT you are looking at? Does your tundra have the tow/haul mode button beneath the A/C control panel? no tow haul mode on my truck keystone bullet 2011 model. m-294bhs hard deal to pass up. pristine condition and i mean pristine $15,600Re: Deposit down- Now I'm no sure I can tow it. manual not clearI've decided I'm going to ask for deposit back. I'm just not comfortable living on the edge of safety. I'm going to look at travel trailer hybrids instead to gain the extra sleeping space while keeping the weight and length down. Thank you so much to everyone who commented or helped with research. I still need to figure out this 5000b town capacity thing though. That can't be right...Re: Deposit down- Now I'm no sure I can tow it. manual not clear lawrosa wrote: payload 1655 Your manual does not state that. Is this from your door tag? Your manual states 1395 or 1430 depending on code ska or lka in the book. window sticker states that. door tag does not list itRe: Deposit down- Now I'm no sure I can tow it. manual not clear lawrosa wrote: 6ft bed ext cab or 'double" cab as toyota calls it You capacity is 8300 without tow package or 10300 with tow package.. Now I am searching what the tow package consist of.. ( Yes some toyotas have had class III aftermarket hitches put on from the dealer..) That means that you do not have toyotas tow package IMO. So as you sit if you change to a calss IV hitch your probably at the 8300lb mark.. Nothing in my VIN search revels i have the tow package and I'm thinking i have no transmission cooler but can't really tell just looking at it..Re: Deposit down- Now I'm no sure I can tow it. manual not clear lawrosa wrote: I have a 2008 5.7L Tundra 1/4 ton 4x4. crew cab? Long bed or short? ext cab? 6ft bed ext cab or 'double" cab as toyota calls itRe: Deposit down- Now I'm no sure I can tow it. manual not clear bgum wrote: CLASS OF HITCH> needs to be IV or higher. yes, I plan to get a iv installed. what I'm not sure about is if the window sticker was referencing a class iii and that is why my listed tow capacity is so low (5000)Re: Deposit down- Now I'm no sure I can tow it. manual not clear bgum wrote: Now your learning. NOW what size motor and rear end specs. Do you have a trans cooler? 5.7 V8 gawr frt = 4000 rr = 4150 not sure about trans cooler. truck purchased used. I could go check visually i guess but i'm no mechanic and not sure what i'm looking at lolRe: Deposit down- Now I'm no sure I can tow it. manual not clear bgum wrote: 5000 would mean you have a class III hitch and need a class IV or larger. With the proper weight dist hitch your Toy will pull the selected trailer just fine. Just remember even a great horse can be loaded to heavy. Don't try to carry everything with you and then put your foot thru the firewall. Be gentle and slow down. Oh, the window sticker is referencing the hitch? I bought the truck second hand and assumed the first owner put the hitch on aftermarket himself but I'm not sure. I do have a class III hitch so maybe thats the limit the sticker references. If I install a class iV that would change things...
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