All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: Legally avoiding California Sales Tax nevadanick wrote: Its already been explained how to buy it in Ca and not pay any sales tax legally. Do it like they said and take your year long trip and your covered. This. I plan on living in CA when making the purchase, but do not plan on being a legal resident. I realize that legally because I do not own or rent a home, nor do I send my kids to school, nor have I registered to be a voter, or any of the other requirements, I do not have to get a CA DL.Re: Legally avoiding California Sales Tax time2roll wrote: superrayzor wrote: lanerd wrote: All you need to know is on the CA Board of Equalization FORM 52. Hope this helps Ron Thanks, this has been the most helpful. For purchases beginning October 2, 2004, through June 30, 2007, and on or after October 1, 2008, a vehicle or vessel purchased outside of California, first functionally used outside of California, and brought into California within 12 months from the date of its purchase is also presumed to have been purchased for use in California and subject to tax if any of the following conditions occur: * Purchased by a California resident as defined in section 516 of the California Vehicle Code1 , or * In the case of a vehicle, subject to California vehicle registration during the first 12 months of ownership, or * In the case of a vessel, subject to property tax in California during the first 12 months of ownership, or * Used or stored in California for more than one-half of the time during the first 12 months of ownership. Please note: A California resident is defined to include a closely held corporation or limited liability company if 50 percent or more of the shares or membership interests are held by members who are residents of California as defined in section 516 of the Vehicle Code. This makes it sound like as long as I do not enter California with the vehicle within 12 months, I am good. If I need to enter California, then I will just park it in AZ and use my tow vehicle. superrayzor wrote: Yes I plan on being a CA resident when I make this purchase. Better read the red section again Section 516 of the vehicle code defines what is considered a resident, and I don't meet any of the qualifications.Re: Legally avoiding California Sales Tax lanerd wrote: All you need to know is on the CA Board of Equalization FORM 52. Hope this helps Ron Thanks, this has been the most helpful. For purchases beginning October 2, 2004, through June 30, 2007, and on or after October 1, 2008, a vehicle or vessel purchased outside of California, first functionally used outside of California, and brought into California within 12 months from the date of its purchase is also presumed to have been purchased for use in California and subject to tax if any of the following conditions occur: * Purchased by a California resident as defined in section 516 of the California Vehicle Code1 , or * In the case of a vehicle, subject to California vehicle registration during the first 12 months of ownership, or * In the case of a vessel, subject to property tax in California during the first 12 months of ownership, or * Used or stored in California for more than one-half of the time during the first 12 months of ownership. Please note: A California resident is defined to include a closely held corporation or limited liability company if 50 percent or more of the shares or membership interests are held by members who are residents of California as defined in section 516 of the Vehicle Code. This makes it sound like as long as I do not enter California with the vehicle within 12 months, I am good. If I need to enter California, then I will just park it in AZ and use my tow vehicle.Re: Legally avoiding California Sales Tax toedtoes wrote: darsben1 wrote: RognBon wrote: I don't know where you got your information, but California charges sales tax on the actual sales price, not the msrp. But any trade is not deducted from sale price So a $250,000 Rv with a $100,000 Trade difference $150,000 but tax is on $250,000 I don't understand why this would be considered paying taxes on more than you paid for the RV? The RV cost $250,000. Person A buys the RV and pays cash for the total $250,000. They are taxed on the $250,000. Person B buys the RV and pays $150,000 cash and trades in their old RV for the remaining $100,000. They are taxed on the $250,000. Why should person B pay less in taxes than person A? OP - read page 14 of this pamphlet from BOE. You pay tax on the actual sale price of the vehicle, not on the MSRP. www.boe.ca.gov/pdf/pub34.pdf Awesome thanks. I purchased my first RV in AZ while I was living in Washington. Because I was driving through CA, he explicitly told me that in CA it was based off MSRP, which was stupid because sales tax in WA where I am from was higher than CA.Re: Legally avoiding California Sales Tax CA Traveler wrote: Not sure if you are a WA or CA resident. But I understand that WA has a very high use tax on vehicles. Which AFAIK never goes away should you not pay use tax on a vehicle and then move to WA. Still true? Update: OK Inland Empire California meaning you will be a CA resident at the time of purchase? Yes I plan on being a CA resident when I make this purchase. I already purchased another RV a year ago and paid WA sales/use tax on it.Re: Legally avoiding California Sales Tax Old-Biscuit wrote: And why are you worried about CA sales with a 'Seattle' location ???? Or is that incorrect! It is technically correct and incorrect. I just moved, and even when I moved I still lived in Seattle while my house was being renovated, hence why I haven't updated my DL.Legally avoiding California Sales TaxI've mentioned in a couple threads that I am looking at a Newmar Baystar. Unfortunately the actual price is coming in ~35K lower than MSRP. From what I understand California charges sales tax on MSRP not actual purchase price (which is stupid). I am not against paying taxes, but this is an extra 3K on top of a 9K tax bill. My wife and I have been discussing a year long road trip for a while. This seems like a good time to not only purchase a new RV but also begin our year long road trip. We would not take the RV into California at all for the year (so many other places to visit). Saving 12K in tax could pretty much fund our whole gas and a significant portion of our lodging bill for the year. I see no problem in setting up a Montana LLC (or even Oregon) and just staying out of the state for the year. At this time we even still have Washington State Drivers Licenses as we only recently moved here (and will probably get hit with a $300 fine when we do get our DL), but I cannot see an issue even if we had CA DL as long as we don't take the MH into California. Has anybody tried this, anybody see any issues? I am not looking for legal advice, I understand this is always at my own risk, but would be interesting to know peoples thoughts.Adding bunk over driver/passenger areaI am thinking about purchasing a Newmar Baystar 3306. There is very little inventory that I can find, and none of them seem to have the above driver/passenger side bunk option (the Newmar website does list it as an option on this floorplan). Even when looking at the MSRP list for it, it costs ~$1700. Has anybody looked into adding a bunk in (preferably electric). Looks like Lippert makes one, but not sure if it can be easily retrofitted/installed?Re: RV Parks with 10 Years Old requirementThanks for the feedback, I've had it asked at 3 different RV parks along the West Coast. Mine is currently young enough that it is not an issue. It sounds like what I thought - a way to turn away those that are falling apart, not maintained. If I keep it up and looking well maintained, even if I lied about it they wouldn't say anything.RV Parks with 10 Years Old requirementI am thinking of buying a used motorhome, something like a 2008 Tiffin Allegro 35QBA Diesel, and refinishing the interior (just materials) as well as possibly a new exterior paint job (similar to this http://www.xtremegraphics.net/ourwork/fullpaint/?action=view&PID=144 ) I have been to many parks in my current motorhome and they ask what year the RV is. I am assuming that there is no way for them to actually check, but a lot of them have a 10 year old or newer requirement. I understand the reasoning, but I don't want to purchase something that is already 9 years old and not be able to go some places due to the age. What are your thoughts? Do it and lie if asked? Obviously I would avoid giving these places my business, but sometimes I have found that it is tough if they have availability and noone else does, or they are closest to where I want to be.
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