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CCTAU wrote: OK. Here is what I did to add an RV outlet to my PowerPro 3500 with selector switch. I used jpkiljan's (Thank you John) diagram. Took panel off. Removed plastic cover. Wired 10 ga black to hot (blue), Red to neutral (red) and green to ground. Ran my wires through same hole as existing wires. Located metal box on end with generator. Drilled holes and mounted. Terminated wires as diagram suggested. Used Grill paint to paint box black. Installed cover. Fired up genny. Will plug in pop-up tomorrow. No smoke or issues that I can see. Will follow up later. Sorry for the multiple pics. I couldn't figure out how to create a link for just these pics and not my others. A big THANK YOU to jpkiljan and MrWizard. Hooked up the genny with mods to my pop-up with 8000 btu window air and ran fine. Then hooked up my 30 ft trail lite with 13.5 btu air. Turned on just fan first. Then kicked in the A/C on low. After a few minutes turned to high for about 20 minutes. Knocked out the initial heat and then turned on low so it would cycle with less strain. Ran like a champ for 3 hours. Wife said it was too cold for her. And the neighbors were probably tired of hearing it. Mods cost about $10. This generator is on sale at Pep Boys for $249 (with $50 mail in). Great gen for the money. My next project will be to make a free standing exhaust tube out of PVC. I'll post pics of that when I get around to it. Thanks to anyone that supplied advice.375Views0likes0CommentsRe: 3000W Chinese Gensets Info.
OK. Here is what I did to add an RV outlet to my PowerPro 3500 with selector switch. I used jpkiljan's (Thank you John) diagram. Took panel off. Removed plastic cover. Wired 10 ga black to hot (blue), Red to neutral (red) and green to ground. Ran my wires through same hole as existing wires. Located metal box on end with generator. Drilled holes and mounted. Terminated wires as diagram suggested. Used Grill paint to paint box black. Installed cover. Fired up genny. Will plug in pop-up tomorrow. No smoke or issues that I can see. Will follow up later. Sorry for the multiple pics. I couldn't figure out how to create a link for just these pics and not my others. A big THANK YOU to jpkiljan and MrWizard.377Views0likes0CommentsRe: 3000W Chinese Gensets Info.
MrWizard wrote: OK. New scenario. Say I just wanted to install a 30 amp plug in a box onto the side of my generator. As long as I use big enough wires, can I just use the following diagram and hook up a new outlet? this way the genny stays the same and I get a new outlet. I know that I will need to run the genny in 240 mode, but I'll only be using 120. NO don't do it that way, don't run in 220 mode, that will split the windings and give you have POWER/amps on the outlet because you will only be using ONE winding jumper the wires from the duplex connections to the new RV outlet and leave it in the 120 mode, you will get the full 25 amps. you can remove the 220 outlet, capp the wires( do not use them ) replace with the RV outlet, and jumper the wires from the duplex to the new outlet I have a metal bolt on box and receptacle. now when you say jump from the duplex, do you mean( according to the photo) the red wire to one plug. The blue to the other. Then ground to ground. Does this mean that one of the hot wires act as a neutral?479Views0likes0CommentsRe: 3000W Chinese Gensets Info.
jpkiljan wrote: yerlizard wrote: here is a picture of the wiring on the newer Power Pro 3500 The tab between the outlets is in place and on the red and blue wires going to it. What does this tell you? does this help any? Edited to reduce picture width - Mel It just looks like it is wired they way the wiring diagram says it is supposed to be wired. Well, it is if you assume that you are looking at the rear of the sockets in the wiring diagram. I also assume the little T-shaped slots in the 120V receptacle are on the bottom of the socket when the panel is reassembled--like it is on mine. --John OK. New scenario. Say I just wanted to install a 30 amp plug in a box onto the side of my generator. As long as I use big enough wires, can I just use the following diagram and hook up a new outlet? this way the genny stays the same and I get a new outlet. I know that I will need to run the genny in 240 mode, but I'll only be using 120.487Views0likes0CommentsRe: 3000W Chinese Gensets Info.
jpkiljan wrote: Hello again Scott (yerlizard), That double-socketed adapter looks just like what I'd like to buy for my Power Pro 3500 "D" model. Can you tell me where they sell those or at least who the manufacturer is? I always figured that they'd be illegal to sell because of the shock hazard and that I'd have to make one on my own. BTW another thing I noticed about our generator is that each of the 15-amp sockets have an extra slot in the neutral return that makes it look like the letter "T" turned sideways. If I understand correctly (and I'm no expert), that means they are NEMA 5-20R sockets and are more robust than standard 15-amp sockets and designed to take a 20-amp load without overheating--a good thing. I've got my new generator up and running with its wheel set, but I won't be able to run some heavy test loads on it till I get back from the mountains the middle of next week when I'll be able to try a circular saw and a small air conditioner on the new generator. Regarding a small 2-stroke generator: The Power Pro is loud compared to my Yamaha EF1000 (four-stroke) suitcase generator, but that generator will not run my 1/2 HP well pump at my mountain cabin. Even though it is rated for the pump's current draw, the voltage drops just below 100 VAC when its running and the motor overheats. I'm at 6400 feet above sea level and that might have something to do with the reduced voltage/output. As I understand it, if you run a pump motor at reduced voltage, the windings start to overheat and that will open a safety breaker like the kind you have in your dryer at home when you forget to clean out the lint filter. A power saw, grinder, drill etc may not have that kind of built-in protection, so be careful when running power equipment on a minimal generator. Still, the Yamaha is my preferred generator for camping since it is so quite, fuel efficient and because I don't use an air conditioner. If I am camping near a creek, other campers will sometimes tell me they didn't know I had it running since it is so quiet. I chain it to a tree at night so that it is still there in the morning. 8^) --John (in Colorado) I see one HERE. But I don't want to blow my genset up as soon as I plug this in. From what I can gather from the posts above, it should be OK. Since the PP3500 send 12.5 amps to each plug, will this mean we get the full 25 amps through this adapter? Also. Since we have a selector switch, couldn't we just use one of these instead and get the full amperage?RV PLUG436Views0likes0CommentsRe: 3000W Chinese Gensets Info.
eightballsidepocket wrote: CCTAU wrote: yerlizard wrote: John, actually I haven't popped a breaker yet, the generator cuts out than comes back on in about 10 seconds. this is after loading up over 15 amps, on a single outlet, I can take the grinder that put me over the limit and plug it in to the other outlet and it runs fine so you get 13.5 amps on each outlet. I was kind of hoping to get full amperage out of one outlet for running a power saw. 18amp start up. I really like this generator, I was thinking of getting one of those 1.2kw 2 cycle jobs to keep in my work truck. Wildfire is the brand. Is this the right type of adapter for an rv? Please don't PM for an answer. Several of us out here have the same model and would like to know if we can combine the duplex plugs into one 30 amp plug. Mr. Wizard? Professor? As a construction electrician, I would only have this input to your inquirey. Are the two duplex receptacles out of phase, or similar to the to a house electrical panel where you get your 220v from taping each side or phase of the 120/220v panel. The breakers that are usually stacked one on another in house panel are each 120 volts to ground, but if you a tester on two adjacent breakers or their respective Buss bars that they are connected too, you should get 220 volts, as the bus bars alternately come from each side or 120 volt phase of your input or feed fromt he utility. So turn on your genny, and put your tester leads in the hot slot of each duplex receptacle and if you get 220 volts you've got two receptacles from different taps of the gennie's windings. The only thing if you looking for a 30 amp set-up. 220 volts is not the way to get it. The 30 amp receptacles are actually just 120 volts to ground, and a 220 volt set up will not give you that. If the two duplex receptacles on your genny are separately breakered, then you could possibly do an additive system off of each duplex and draw more than 20 or 15 amps whichever way they duplexes are breakered. If they are both breakered off the same breaker, then your internal wiring is not designed to carry more than the 20-15 amp breakered current at 120 volts. In order to get 30 amps or 220 volts some of these gennys may need to have their internal taps, splices redone. I'd be careful doing that unless you know your electric motor/generator wire tap configurations, and have a good quality tester to make sure. My question to Mr Wizzard or the Professor was referring back to a specific model discussed in this post: PowerPro 3500436Views0likes0CommentsRe: 3000W Chinese Gensets Info.
yerlizard wrote: John, actually I haven't popped a breaker yet, the generator cuts out than comes back on in about 10 seconds. this is after loading up over 15 amps, on a single outlet, I can take the grinder that put me over the limit and plug it in to the other outlet and it runs fine so you get 13.5 amps on each outlet. I was kind of hoping to get full amperage out of one outlet for running a power saw. 18amp start up. I really like this generator, I was thinking of getting one of those 1.2kw 2 cycle jobs to keep in my work truck. Wildfire is the brand. Is this the right type of adapter for an rv? Please don't PM for an answer. Several of us out here have the same model and would like to know if we can combine the duplex plugs into one 30 amp plug. Mr. Wizard? Professor?364Views0likes0Comments
