All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: 21 foot Class A with Diesel? Does it exist? Daveinet wrote: Unless they build that thing with a slide out, their idea of entering the US market is a joke. Yes, I know there are some who have no desire for a slide out, but both of you is not considered a market. You would be surprised, there is quite a significant number of people in US who are looking for smaller, lighter, and more economical RVs. We live right now in the Joshua Tree area, in CA, and there are a lot of RVs coming to this area right now, over 50% of them are small RVs with young 20-40 year old couples without kids, traveling in small 20-24 foot RVs. The demographics for the RV market are shifting, and I think there is a real market for small and light RVs designed for couples. Slideouts are nice, but the problem with slide outs is that RVs built with slideouts are not really designed at all to function well if the sides are not slid out. And, in my case, for instance, that just would not work. Slide outs work if you are parked in an RV park, but not so much, if you are parked in a parking lot, street, national park, or basically any other place. Ideal would be, of course, an RV with slideouts for the main area, but designed to work really well with the sides in or out. - BogdanRe: 21 foot Class A with Diesel? Does it exist? Daveinet wrote: x0054 wrote: Those FIAT based RVs are all under 7000 lb, which is super light by comparison. No, they are over 8000 lbs. Yes, kind of light, but still 3 X the weight of an average car. Light weight would be the Ultravan. You are right. They advertise them as 3.5 tons. Google lied to me and told me that 3.5 tons is 7,000 lb. It turns out it's 7840 lb actually. Still, very light. My 21 foot RV is just under 11,000.Re: 21 foot Class A with Diesel? Does it exist?Those FIAT based RVs are all under 7000 lb, which is super light by comparison.Re: 21 foot Class A with Diesel? Does it exist?After doing some more research about the Class A RVs available in Europe, my favorite is Carthago Chic. It's diesel, under 21 foot, and from what people say, it gets 27-30 MPG! And it looks like I could even stick a crouch rocket in the back, maybe. And... it's not available in US :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeDlfJTvvWcRe: 21 foot Class A with Diesel? Does it exist?I am not sure why shorter rigs would have crappy diesels. They will have smaller, less powerful, diesels. But smaller diesels are quite nice, quite, and reliable nowadays. Though I am looking more than anything for a good MPG. Diesel engines give the best MPG in my experience, and I do not mind the extra maintenance cost. I think we don't see as many smaller Class As in US because the base platform is simply not available at the moment. Chrysler is coming out with front wheel drive diesel powered vans to replace or supplement Sprinters. Maybe once those come out, we will see some smaller Class A RVs similar to the Dethleffs GlobeBus.Re: 21 foot Class A with Diesel? Does it exist?I love the looks and the interior of the Dethleffs GlobeBus! I wish that was available in the US. That's the ideal size for me and the wife. I wish it was rear wheel drive, but I think by keeping it front wheel drive they can keep the floors and the profile nice and low. Too bad you can't get them in US, from what I can tell :(Re: Fresh water tankOne gallon of water is 8.4 lb. I have a 25 gallon tank, I think. So full it's 210lb, which is roughy 1.9% of GVW. Basically a drop in the bucket. And it's always better to have water then not to have it, just in case.Re: 21 foot Class A with Diesel? Does it exist? Francesca Knowles wrote: Be aware that since you lose the cabover area, a 21 foot A will have less "usable" interior space than does a C of the same nominal length. That's why I really like the Safari Trek! Thanks for the recommendation guys. The shortest I have found so far is the 24 foot model they made in 1994. The "magic" bed really works nice, from what I have seen on youtube. Practically speaking a 24 footer is probably just as easy and nice to drive as a 21 footer, but legally, it's just a lot easier to deal with a 21 footer. I really like that flexibility of being able to park on the street and get into every national park and road I want to. We may have to settle for a Class C for now :( Nothing wrong with Class C, we just like the looks of an A. But finding a 21 foot class C with a diesel is very hard as well.21 foot Class A with Diesel? Does it exist?Hi all, We currently have a Class C, 21 foot, gas RV based on a Ford platform. A 1994 Shasta. But my wife and I like a lot the "bus" look of the Class A RVs. We don't need more than 21 feet, as it's just the 2 of us. We also like the flexibility of a 21 foot RV, being able to park it on the street and such. So, we are looking to maybe upgrade one day. But after some research it looks like what we want just might be a unicorn! :) We wold love to find a 21 foot Class A with a turbo diesel engine. We want the turbo diesel because of gas milage you can get on those. Oh, and if it could have a stick-shift, that would be just amazing! We found one, a Vixen 21. (http://www.vixenrv.com/) But they are incredibly rare, and not tall enough for our needs. I am 6'2" and would like to be able to stand in my RV. Any other suggestions? Thanks, - BogdanRe: Better Gas Milage and Shift Lock on e-350 based RV?You guys might be right, torque converter may not be capable of taking the more load, but I am telling you, the way the engine feels, I think it could easily, without even trying, pull the RV up almost any hill in the 4th gear. Is there a way to perhaps connect a light to the transmission somehow so it would light up when the torque converter is locked. Just out of curiosity. I want to see when it locks up, and when it disconnects. Perhaps I can modify my driving style to get it to disconnect less often. I usually drive with cruise control set to 55mph, so I doubt the speed is a problem. I guess there isn't much of a problem, since from what it sounds like, my milage is right in the ball park. I was just hoping that I could get a little more :)