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Re: Diesel vs gas......................
Jumbo Cranium wrote: ponie wrote: Jumbo Cranium wrote: ponie wrote: It’s the Diesel Regret that I find far too often in RV parks that makes me wonder. Why are so many elderly gents hating their diesels when young guns think they are the bomb? You already admitted to making up the quotes from people who supposedly hate their diesels. Remember? The quotes are true its just the way that I portray the proud diesels owners that gets some fellas. Here are some of your so called quotes, "Just like when riding shotgun with the owner of the 7.3L. He acted like I was nuts when I asked doesn't this thing have any more go to get up over the hill? "You will burn it up, that's all the more fuel you can give it or she will overheat dummy" he said." " “Dat dare truck gets me 25mpg. I can hook up to dat dare 40ft 5th wheel wid mamas entire brass roster collection inside and I don’t even know its behind me. Yes sir boy, I pulled that rig up over (so high it makes you dizzy pass) like it was not even there. Probably would have left the ground at the top had it not been for the sun reflecting off mars and gettin into me eyes. Had to back out of er ya know”. "“Dat dare truck will run for 700,000 miles without so much as an oil change and when I trade it in I will look to get near what I paid fer her cause everyone wants dat dare diesel”. “Would rather part with me first born over dat dare truck”. " “Sure I can get 21mpg running mama to the doctors office and the mall, but when I hook to my 12,000 5th wheel I am getting 9mpg. Don’t believe what anyone tells you. The mileage is single digits if you hog into it. I usually try to move between parks at night with less traffic because I don’t like holding up the trucks on the hills. This thing is wonderful in the park and on the two lane, but once you get up the ramp, its kinda, well, ahhh A DOG!” Yep, those are sure believable quotes all right. Here is one more of yours that I do believe, its the one where you admit you made all of them up. In my complete bogus survey spread across RV parks from TX to NY state it appears that 100% of the respondents will not stand behind their diesel dicision You have zero credibility in the forum. This is kind of like trying to teach a pig to sing. I ain't accomplishing anything and the pig is getiing annoyed. You guys need to clean up the entire thread as you continue to single me out. I could go back up through and capture some real side splitters. Describing the whine of the diesel as a value-add because it "scares deer off the road". That is one of my favorites. It looks like some of you have ample time, so go look up some of the off the wall quotes depicting the passion of diesel ownership. When I portray the passion of some diesel owners you take offence. I point out current bogus info like the one diesel owner posting 28.7 MPG and you say I don't have any credibility? My ongoing survey is bogus to the extent that I am not recording owner’s names; make model and year of the diesels that they regret. The sentiments of diesel owners that I am talking to are not bogus. This entire thread lacks credibility. It’s an ongoing joke thread, but only club members are allowed to contribute? No, wait a minute that’s not a question, that’s fact. If the moderators would initiate some type of baloney patrol to keep it cleaned up, my depiction would have no place. I did not start with the outlandish claims, but when I repeat it back I am the bad guy. You can pile on all you want, but many of you still refuse to get it. The thread is diesel verses gas, but the thread is being managed to a different outcome. You guys should seriously consider renaming the thread to 100 reasons why owning a Gas truck is dumb or 100 ways to attack anyone who doubts that diesels are better than a BBgasser. It’s hard to believe that some of you can’t get it through your heads. I am not committed to the BBgasser like some that post here. I just want someone to come out so to hook our trucks to comparable loads (Big 5th wheel) and do some 0-65 times, a long hill and some highway traveling. I am sorry, but I can only believe it when I see it when the pride is so intoxicating. If you want to shut me up in this thread, please demonstrate how superior your diesel truck and I will post no more.391Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
I am not smart enough to know how to do that. Many in this thread have pointed that out no? Its like I have said before. The thread title is diesel verses gas, but the majority only talk about MPG and that is exactly where many diesel owners differ. I just wish we could talk about all performance measures comparing BBgassers and diesels. More post claiming 28.7 MPG mean nothing when the intended purpose of the trucks in question is pulling large loads cross country.418Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
rdebault wrote: I have read all the pros and cons on this thread and I must add my own story. I have a 30Ft fifth wheel that weighs about 12K-13K. I use to have a dodge gas truck which routinly produced 14mpg on the highway empty and 8mpg pulling my 5vr. Last year I purchased a very clean 2003 F250 Diesel with the 7.3L engine. I put a 4 inch exhaust and the AIS air intake system on it along with TW programming chip and it produces 20-28.7 mpg on the highway at 70mph empty and 16-18mpg pulling my 5vr with low head winds 14-15mpg with heavy head winds at 70mph. Yes diesle is a little more expensive but when the mileage difference is so extreme it makes no sense to have a gasoline vehicle. Volkswagon is introducing their diesel in the toureg crossover vehicle in October and it is suppose to get 44mpg on the highway and 29mpg in the city. Diesel is a much better fuel and its only a matter of time before everyone finally realizes it. You guys really need to start a thread comparing MPG of your diesels. The local 7.3Liter owner up the valley can't get more than 9mpg when he pulls 12k. What’s up with you guys claiming 18 MPG with a head wind? Twenty eight point seven. Point seven. That’s right he said 28.7 with a truck half a decade old. The same motor that many of you diesel brethren said was junk compared to your new 6.6 liters. What MPG are you guys getting? 39.2 Or something. This is the stuff legends are made of I guess. Some guys drink the cool-aid and some guys just swim in it.352Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
Jumbo Cranium wrote: ponie wrote: It’s the Diesel Regret that I find far too often in RV parks that makes me wonder. Why are so many elderly gents hating their diesels when young guns think they are the bomb? You already admitted to making up the quotes from people who supposedly hate their diesels. Remember? The quotes are true its just the way that I portray the proud diesels owners that gets some fellas.353Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
You must be feeling old for 50 is not elderly. I am right behind you. Seems like the ego settles a bit once the testosterone diminishes at 75 or 80+. Much truth and wisdom seems to come from these gents that own top of the line pullers but are honest enough with themselves to state the truth. Just seems like performance of any truck is subject to ones ego and that subsides with age. Not with some for sure. Still the topic is Diesel verses Gas and I specificly seek valid data on the comparison of performance of the BBgasser (8.1liter) against other 1 ton pulling trucks. Don't need any more post on MPG, Gas prices or what fuel cost this second of the day at my local gas station for sure.352Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
Out of the 186 pages that have resulted from the original post the majority of responses have nothing to do with comparative data between diesel and big block gas truck performance. It’s almost completely focused on MPG or some jokers smack talk. If any of you guys hear of a scheduled pulling comparison using a tri axle 5er in a true pulling comparison please send me a PM. Once again, if your travel puts you near Warren PA you will be able to help me discover the truth in comparing your diesel to an bbGasser (8.1). I would sincerely appreciate this opportunity and will honor dinner for the diesel owner that out pulls my stock bbGasser. Soon I will be heading south via a westerly route to TX or CA. If anyone wants to take me up on the opportunity to educate me with your diesel, I am here. My planned route is about 3000 miles, so someone out their must be ready back up those torqe ratings that look so good on paper. Enjoy your powerless fixation on fuel prices guys.269Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
“Common sense dictates huh”? “No one has ever gone from diesel back to gas”? “I know my diesel will kick your trucks A$$” I am the dumb one ? None of you that approach this thread from this angle have credibility from one very simple standpoint. You have no real world data to support your claims. Every pull off comparison is comparing diesels to diesels or small gassers. It is sooooo much easier to stick your head in the sand as a group but it does not support any of your claims. Suggesting that I would not validate your assumptions in a pull off comparison is hilarious. I am not the proud one here fellas. Void of any facts I developed the logic that anyone (many of you) that pulled with a 5.7 or 6 liter gas truck and switched to a diesel saw favorable performance results. Your well within your right to respond to seat of the pants claims based on owning the small block gassers. You only have your torque charts and brotherhood smack talking and small block ownership. You all act like I don’t have the right to ask questions in this thread. Go back at look any anyone of my recent post. I have not said that my 8.1 is better in any way to your truck. I don’t post any points to degrade you or your trucks. Even when I find a tricked out 7.3 Liter diesel to drive for a few days I still keep an open mind to try the 6.x trucks you suggest. You resent my characterization of the proud bubba diesel owner, but you just keep playing the part. Void of facts you just keep tugging on your bib straps and saying “yes sir, dat boy ain't right in the head, anybody nodes that a diesel will kick a gassers a$$. It’s a rare individual that has owned both an 8.1 and a diesel and pulled equal loads. Apparently those few individuals never validated any pulls comparing MPH over distance and time. Some have said lets get back on track with the thread. The thread is Diesel verses gas. Why continue a thread that does not support the real world comparison of an 8.1Liter gas to a diesel? You guys need to start a thread titled; Why we love our diesels, or maybe The top ten ways to slap a gasser owner around.251Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
Rvndave wrote: Ponie I offered you the closest thing to what you request, I was more than willing to meet you with a similar load. Give it up, ya lost your chance. Rvndave, You stick to your version and others can read above to see how you bailed when I asked you to hook to a 40ft 5th wheel. So explained how you intended to be honerable responding in the first place when you don't have a 5th wheel hitch to pull my 5er? Did you realy think you were going to pull your Travel Trailer on the 4 lane at 75mph like I asked for in my pulling comparison? Did up upgrade from that Travel Trailer and put a hitch in your truck or something? If you did not, you better do some high speed test with that Travel Trailer to make sure you are up for the challange.250Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
Jumbo Cranium wrote: Ponei, go test drive a new one for Petes sake, or look for a used one a a lot that has a hitch and test drive it. Geez man, you keep wanting someone on here to meet you and burn their diesel to prove your point. You asked for numbers, I gave them to you, you throw them out the window again. I am inclined to believe others on here when they say all you are looking for is an argument. You sure like to sling the word slander around, but it is just another thing you dont have a clue about. The only critical thing I said about you was you did not know what you are talking about, and you prove that with every post. It ain't slander if its true Jack. Now, come on and prove us all right again. "Burn their diesels to prove my point" Ahhhh ! Now that is a diesel owner speaking some truth. I might not be a smart man, but I do know what bull $hit smells like. Its taken quite a few post to get just a touch of reality in this thread. Just like when riding shotgun with the owner of the 7.3L. He acted like I was nuts when I asked doesn't this thing have any more go to get up over the hill? "You will burn it up, that's all the more fuel you can give it or she will overheat dummy" he said. No wonder no one will do a pulling comparison to the 8.1L gasser. Please explain this problem in more detail. It sure is tough being the dumb one all the time. Am I to assume another caveat to diesel ownership is overheating ?250Views0likes0Comments
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