All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: 2016 Cirrus 800 on 2016 Ram 2500HD 4X4OK Guys, another Timbren question. I ordered the double convoluted set (yet to arrive), but I perused the Timbren site today, and they recommend the single convoluted, "SES" set for slide-in truck campers. Mello Mike did a review on his site, and he also recommends the "SES" set. Any opinions, or have any of you tried the SES Timbrens? They run about 100 bucks more, retail cost, so no big deal on cost.Re: 2016 Cirrus 800 on 2016 Ram 2500HD 4X4 djg wrote: I just put a set of airlift air springs on my 1995 F-350 DRW and love them went on 4000 mile trip was very impressed, they have the centre rubber mount inside the bag so they don't destroy the bag if they don't have air, on board air compressor with duel setting so you can adjust either side. I needed to pull a trailer that's why I added them and with the trailer I was about 800 lbs over gross normally I am about 300 lbs over a lot more money than timbrens but I wanted the adjustability. Nice camper you got there we were looking at the Cirrus 920 a month ago as my camper got blown over in a wind storm in my driveway insurance wrote it off but when they uprighted it I decided to fix it not as much damage as was thought so we bought it back off ins. Dave I don't pull a trailer, and any long trips are going to still be made in our class A rig, so I hope that the Timbrens will be adequate for me, as most excursions with my TC will be for < 7 days, and under 300-400 miles from home. I may regret the lack of adjustability with the Timbrens, and if so, I will have to eat the 200 bucks and start over! 90% of the miles on my truck will be sans TC, so the Timbrens may beat my brains out! Sounds like a sweet, once in a lifetime deal on your "totaled" TC!Re: 2016 Cirrus 800 on 2016 Ram 2500HD 4X4 Grit dog wrote: Good point jimlin, but to ease the OPs mind, I’ve been hauling a lot more camper than the Cirrus on a shortbed with those same OE 20s for a few years now. Better part of 10kmiles with 75-80mph all day runs on the freeway and miles of logging and forest roads. Both with the OE Transforce tires and a set of firestone muddrrs. I’m pretty confident the wheels are not going to break. Assume a 3500lb wheel rating, car mfgs are not going to put out anything that doesn’t have a HUGE factor of safety for liability purposes alone. Count the number of severely overloaded trucks you see daily on the freeway and the number of brokeennwheels onthe side of the road. I’ve personally done waaay worse things to wheels thanbeing a couple hundred lbs over rating. Not reccomending it to others, ratherststing there little real world concern here, within reason. I have had much this same discussion in my own mind, glad to see you put it in words on "paper"!Re: What About Arkansas?There are no reliably cool places in Arkansas between May and October. I live in Hot Springs, and it is a Hot Box this time of year. We love it, the area is beautiful, but that's the truth!Re: 2016 Cirrus 800 on 2016 Ram 2500HD 4X4Thanks for the additional replies and suggestions. I will let you all know what I decide and how things turn out!Re: 2016 Cirrus 800 on 2016 Ram 2500HD 4X4Thanks for the replies and advice! I think that I will try the Timbrens first, followed perhaps by the Helwig bar, and finally the shocks, if needed. I was browsing on the etrailer.com site, and one of the videos recommended the Timbrens over airbags when loaded close to the maximum payload most of the time, and airbags if the load being carried had significant variations over time. I think that I can install the Timbrens myself, without too much trouble, too.2016 Cirrus 800 on 2016 Ram 2500HD 4X4I picked up my 2016 Cirrus 800 on Thursday, and then carried it back 600 miles home. I weathered tornado spawning, severe thunderstorms for the first 200 miles, then the weather became more cooperative. I weighed in at 10240 lbs, with 6120 of that on the rear axle. My GVWR is 10,000 lbs, and rear axle load is 6500 lbs (front axle is 5500 lbs). Tires are stock 20 inchers, rated at 3460 lbs each. I was 240 lbs. over my GVWR, but I had about 250 lbs of "stuff" with me, that I did not need....lots of tools, in case something unexpected happened on the road, a full set of camper accessories (like sewer hose/attachments, water hose, brass water pressure regulator, a set of Anderson levelers, etc). But, the seller gave me all of their camper accessories, so I was carrying a double load of that stuff. I also had 15 gallons of water in the fresh tank. I had all of the normal "camper stuff" with me, like a few groceries, bedding, clothes, towels, wash cloths, bath and dish soaps, cleaning supplies, light dishes, laptop computer, etc. My truck has a 32 gallon gas tank, which was also full to the brim. The fully loaded camper set my truck down 2 inches over the rear axle, and 1/2 inch up front. It road and drove very well, except for a little bit of side-to-side sway over certain sections of road. It didn't seem to be bothered by passing trucks or bumps in the road. There was no "porpoising"in a front to rear motion. The only motion was occasional rocking from side-to-side over sections of otherwise smooth looking road surface for a few hundred feet, then everything would level back out and feel rock-solid again. I drove 65-68 mph, and if I needed to pass a truck or a slow car, I had no trouble at speeds up to 73 mph. I never got any faster than that. I was on Interstate highways and four-lane State highways for 95% of the trip, so I didn't encounter much in the way of any real curvy, single lane roads. I never noticed any swaying at speeds of 62 mph and below. I was really worried about my truck handling this camper, but I am cautiously more optimistic now. I am going to shop for a real good set of air bags and maybe some real heavy duty rear shocks. I have no doubt that the back and forth rocking is due to the coil springs on the newer Ram 2500 trucks, and their location reportedly being too far toward the center of the truck on either side. Without the 20 inch wheels and tires, I would be more skeptical of my set-up, for sure. I am open to suggestions for my airbags and possible shock upgrades. I do think that I want an in-cab operating system with an air pump, for ease of use. Thanks for all the advice in my previous thread! Re: Truck size for Palomino 1251 BroncoI am new to all this, as well. But, I have studied up! What is the payload of the truck? CWR is kind of cheesy, because it assumes 5-6 people in the cab of your truck, each weighing 150 lbs. Go fill your tank with gas at a truck stop that has a CAT scale. You can Google them easily close by your home. Put the front axle and the rear axle on separate sections of the scale (real easy, you will see). Get the true weight of your truck with gas and your body weight in it. You will also get the true weight of your present axle loads. Subtract the true weight from GVWR (7200 lbs), and that will give you a close approximation of what you can carry in the bed. Don't forget that you will add some considerable weight with gear, food, etc. Driving without any water (8.3 lbs/gallon) can help, too. Air bags and other suspension enhancements can help handling, tire wear, etc., but won't increase the load that you can carry. I'm sure that others who are more experienced than myself will chime in, too.Re: TC Newbie with ?'sOne more try with another image hosting site.... Re: TC Newbie with ?'sI wanted to do a test for uploading photos, so here is my truck with the tailgate off, ready to install my forklift tie downs and rubber bedliner (to protect bed and prevent TC slippage). The second photo is a picture of the load ratings on my OEM Firestone Transforce AT tires (LT 285/60/R20) for the non-believers. Close observers my notice by OEM truck bed step. It will have to come off for the tie down to mount properly.
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