All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: Alliance 5th WheelsTheres a lot of coolaid re the three ACs and no ducting, before we even know how even the cooling is with three units running.Re: Alliance 5th WheelsAnd there is a seat in the shower. That's what makes them roomy: it folds up.Re: Alliance 5th WheelsMy impression from reading here and elsewhere is that the coolaid is just as strong on the anti alliance side as it is on the pro alliance side. Their marketing is strong to be sure and maybe thats what either sets expectations higher than the price, or attracts certain buyers interested in the differentiating details such as they are. Three smaller ACs no ducting. Are folks reporting uneven cooling? To me its important to run two of them on 30A but we have no intentions of full timing and expect to use 30A campsites. The 310 is on my short list cause DW likes it and because the shower is large enough for my big frame. I guess i don't have a strong cool aid reaction either way cause they appear to be in line with the price point and I'm not expecting mobile suites quality for a grand design price. But i would like to see more detail re where these guys fall short for the price point or if the marketing has just set expectations too high and folks are expecting to see a modernized hitchkiker.Re: Alliance 5th Wheels ACZL wrote: This new RV has caught my attention, but like others, want to see how they are after new owners get them. I like their ideas and concepts and for right now seem to listen to people and make changes based on suggestions. We all want to see now what they are going to offer in terms of floor-plans and all but they (Alliance) are keeping their cards close to their chests. As this year goes forward, more models will be released. Big question tho is, are they going to stick to their guns and really be 100% customer focused, take time to manufacture RV's in a quality fashion and not rush them out the door or not? By the time the Hershey show is here, they should have more floorpans to see. Also, folks that have bought them already should as well be offering their take on them.. This is a good observation that is holding thus far imho. They have assembled an interesting collection of big wiggs from other companies (including GD) but what intrigues me is their presumed ability to compete at this price point. So far my observation is that they are no nu-wa (hitchiker) by any means, with no apparent intentions thereunto, either. But they have made the splash and turned some heads so now its time to deliver. Can they reliably laminate to Azdel? Are the seals around the roof perimeter any better than others? Is PVC roof better for the customer or better for the mfg? What industry contribution or claim to fame are they trying to achieve? I hope its more than color coded wires and folding shower seats Im trying to discern what they are really selling. If its just coach features identified via crowd sourcing then they won't be leaders very long. If its customer engagement then its a me-too grand design company. But if its a better trailer then they will have to earn that reputation over time, with more than just de-rating gvw below the sum of axle rating and pin weight.Re: Two features a must in a fifth. Who builds them philh wrote: JAC1982 wrote: Also this one looks like it would work. https://northwoodmfg.com/arctic-fox-2/arctic-fox-27-5l/ I have my eye on that one Yea i just read the OP requirements and saw the point: most awnings end near the edge of the doorRe: Two features a must in a fifth. Who builds themThew new Alliance 5ers appear to meet the awning requirement as well https://www.alliancerv.com/fifth-wheel-paradigm.phpAzdel anyone?Hi, this material is getting more press (and sales time). The primary value proposition is that it won't take on water, so mfgs are touting that they are now immune to delamination due to water damage. But this also means that the sidewall lamination process is now different so there is a new/introduced risk of delamination when dry. or is there? just wondering if Azdel really moves the needle.Re: School me on 5th wheel hitches pleaseThose of you who have towed with both a companion and then moved to the andersen: other than weight, why? From watching videos it looks like the Anderson is less forgiving during the initial hookup is thst true?Re: School me on 5th wheel hitches pleaseI'm starting to build confidence in the trailer saver solution with the motivation of optimizing the tow experience. What I like about Andersen is simplicity. What i don't like is how precise the hookup has to be and the lack of any shock absorbing capability as found in the b&w. What I like about b&w is the jaw tolerances and more forgiving hookup process What I like about the Hensley trailer saver ts3 is the latitude in hookup plus the transfervif forward motion to downward motion and the airbags. What I don't like is the 300 weight...Re: School me on 5th wheel hitches pleaseThe other thing I learned is that the potential chucking distance of a 40' versus a 30' trailer is not significant. The difference is about a quarter of one percent (the 30 foot trailer chucks a quarter of a percent further in terms of distance, for the same vertical articulation). So my interpretation is that short trailers bounce more and with a higher amplitude due to reduced moment of inirtia about the axle. Conversely, the longer trailer will have moderated lower amplitude chucking, not because of hitch geometry but because it doesn't rotate as easily about its own axle and therefore tends not to squat the TV as much, for the same bump in the road. Those who have actually towed both short and long please chime in. This is just theory...
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