All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: Understanding towing capactity for Ford ExpeditionBoy this stuff is almost bad as common core math! Looking at that 1385#s minus my families weight puts the number down in the 1000 range. Throw possibilities of cargo around 200 pounds and we are talking 800 range. Though I would think most of my cargo would be in the TT and not the Expy? In any case that max number is looking lower than the max tongue load of 890#s. I checked the hitch sticker and it can support the WD hitch which then says max tongue is 920 on the sticker. Gdetrailer wrote: Buying by using DRY or EMPTY weights without figuring in ALL the "stuff" you load into the trailer will often put you into a potential overload situation.. In our shopping I definitely have been looking at the max trailer weights not the dry. My rule of thumb has been looking at somewhere around 7500 or below. But as I read more online I have become more confused about what is going to be good for us. Some say it is too much TT for the TV, others have success stories of pulling TTs bigger for multiple years without issue. Also another question, how much does a load leveling suspension help? My Expy has one when we bought it and am not sure how helpful it is. Thanks again for everyone's comments and helpful suggestions!Re: Understanding towing capactity for Ford Expedition APT wrote: Your Expy is likely limited by either the as equipped payload or the recevier rating of 890 pounds. Check the driver's door sticker for max combined weight of occupants and cargo shall not exceed weight. Sticker says shall not exceed 1385#s. How is that number different than max payload number I found or is it the same and the door is just the more accurate number?Understanding towing capactity for Ford ExpeditionWe are noobs to buying and owning TTs but we are learning. What continues to confuse us is the advice/research into what exactly is our max trailer capacity for pulling. What size trailer can we get. If I read the black and white numbers then it looks really good for us. But when I do deeper research including older posts on this board, I get really confused as I am not sure what we truly can and can't do. Here is what we have for a TV: 2012 Expedition EL Limited (5.4L V8 and 3.73 Axel) with HD towing package (Trans cooler, Trailer brakes, class IV hitch). The numbers Ford gives: GCWR 15,000#s Max Trailer size of 8,700#s. Max tongue load of 890#s Other numbers I have found: Curb Weight: 5781#s Maximum payload:1590#s As an example TT, here are the specs on one we like the most so far. UVW 5638#s GVWR 7600#s CCC 1962#s Hitch Weight 639#s Full length 33'5" On the surface we look fine and should be able to pull it considering we are 1100#s under the max rating for our TV. But if I do the math (I believe correctly...) Curb weight + Max Payload + Trailer GVWR + Hitch Weight = 15,610#s This means my GCW is over the GCWR rating if I was to fully load the TT and TV down. Does this then mean that I should avoid the TT and look for something smaller? Or since this is the extreme high end that I am ok? The other concern I have is the tongue. If I again do the math, according to Ford I should be 10-15% of loaded trailer weight. So calculating that it would be 760(10%)- 1140#s(15%). It will obviously exceed the rating of the tongue then at about 11%. So how do I interpret this? If I would go by the percents then I would be looking for a TT under 6000#s to accommodate the 15%. Why does the vehicle even get a 8700# rating. Confusing.... Are there other concerns I may be overlooking? Perhaps I missed something in my calculations and it is better than it looks?
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