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Re: A "cheater plug" in along with a Honda EU 2000i ????
BurbMan wrote: wtfjr wrote: If the GFI outlet senses current through the ground terminal it will trip. Incorrect! The GFCI outlet monitors current between hot and neutral. If more is going out on the hot than is coming back on the neutral it assume the current is flowing through something (someone) else and trips. With a cheater type setup it is possible for current from the 15a plug to return on the 30a neutral which is what causes the trip. Has nothing to do with the ground plug. Seriously, what is big deal about "surviving" on 30 amps? maybe you need to find a different CG? Sounds great, BUT my wife likes to fish here better then anywhere else, They only offer 30 amp service on a very good day. What's a hubby to do ??467Views0likes0CommentsRe: A "cheater plug" in along with a Honda EU 2000i ????
The below is a suggestion received & I wanted to hear what the board thought of it ?????? ""On your question on how to hook up your RV using your RV adapter. If it is the type of adapter with two plugs, one 30 amp and the other 15 amp, you may be able to get it to work with the GFI outlet at the campground. Remove the ground from the 15 amp plug of the adapter by breaking off the ground prong of the 15 amp plug of the adapter. To use, plug the 30 amp plug into the campground 30 amp outlet, and plug the 15 amp plug of the adapter into the 15 amp GFI outlet of the campground. Make sure the 15 amp plug is positioned as if it still had the ground pin, so the polarity is correct. This is safe as your RV will still have a ground connection via the 30 amp plug. That should work. Just so the ground wire of the 15 amp adapter plug is not connected to the GFI outlet ground. Make sure to maintain the polarity of the 15 amp plug so the hot and common wires are connected as if the ground pin was there. As long as there is no other problem, this should work. What happens: If the GFI outlet senses current through the ground terminal it will trip. Having the 30 amp and 15 amp plug connected to the camp's 30 and 15 amp outlets' ground, (via the adapter) the two ground terminals of the camp's outlets will be connected together. There will always be a small current flow from one outlet ground to the other, and the 15 amp GFI outlet will trip. Removing the ground connection will break the contact, and no current will flow from one outlet to the other.""466Views0likes0CommentsA "cheater plug" in along with a Honda EU 2000i ????
Hi All We have an electrical question as follows-- For our first time we plan to use a cheater plug at Sebastian State Park where all that is offered is 30 amp service. One arm of this cheater plug will plug into the 30 amp side of the shore power station & the other arm from this "cheater plug" will plug into the 15 amp side of the shore power station giving us up to 45 amp service into our power line. The only potential problem is that if the 15 amp side of the shore power station is GFI protected, this Cheater plug will not work, as the GFI breaker will trip to off. Our question is, if this 15 amp plug in can not be used by us due to the GFI breaker, can we use our Honda Generator EU 2000i to plug into as an alternative to the 15 amp power & not negatively affect anything in the coaches electrical system ? We feel the Honda will run more quietly & use less gas than our Onan 7.7 We'd really appreciate any comments or suggestions here. Thanks !! PS; we are aware that with 30 amps you only run one a/c & nothing else like a microwave, coffee pot etc. PSS; what is the difference between running the onboard Onan 7.7 & running the Honda instead ?3.1KViews0likes20CommentsUsing a Honda EU 2000i with a "cheater plug" in ???
Hi All We have an electrical question as follows-- For our first time we plan to use a cheater plug at Sebastian State Park where all that is offered is 30 amp service. One arm of this cheater plug will plug into the 30 amp side of the shore power station & the other arm from this "cheater plug" will plug into the 15 amp side of the shore power station giving us up to 45 amp service into our power line. The only potential problem is that if the 15 amp side of the shore power station is GFI protected, this Cheater plug will not work, as the GFI breaker will trip to off. Our question is, if this 15 amp plug in can not be used by us due to the GFI breaker, can we use our Honda Generator EU 2000i to plug into as an alternative to the 15 amp power & not negatively affect anything in the coaches electrical system ? We feel the Honda will run more quietly & use less gas than our Onan 7.7 We'd really appreciate any comments or suggestions here. Thanks !! PS; we are aware that with 30 amps you only run one a/c & nothing else like a microwave, coffee pot etc. PSS; what is the difference between running the onboard Onan 7.7 & running the Honda instead ?1KViews0likes5CommentsRe: Question on fuel consumed by our generator AND ??
Executive wrote: wtfjr wrote: Any way you look at it, this running the genny will not be an inexpensive thing to do. Let's see...gas is currently $3.79 at Melborne. $3.79 @ .4/hr comes to about $1.50 worth of gas each hour, or a third of a cup of java from Starbucks....I fail to see where your issue comes in. I'd sacrifice that cup of Joe for three hours of being comfortable...:W.....just sayin....Dennis Thanks for your input. Gas in Melbourne is closer to $3.29 per gallon & my spec sheet from Onan says that I will burn .7 of a gallon per hour with a half load which comes out to $2.30 per hour for say 12 hours comes out to about $28 for each 12 hour period, times our 14 day stay & you are close to $400 not counting the many trips to the gas station to fill the 5 gal cans. That is really a bit more than I'd spend for coffee anywhere & any day. Then comes the night when you are not allowed to run any generators & we get really warm ? Not a nice picture.......499Views0likes0CommentsRe: Question on fuel consumed by our generator AND ??
FormerBoater wrote: wtfjr wrote: mci7 wrote: Still the question WHY do you want to run the generator while plugged into the post ? IF it is to try to run both A/C units, 1 from genset and 1 from the post, that is stupid at best, would guess an different tactic. Seems the gasoline usage is a large issue, with all the campers you have purchased, money would not be an issue. If you were at a suitable rv park, they would have 50 amp service I would ASSUME. At best the max power offered at Sebastian is 30 amps. Our last two trips there we had to leave early due to their "brown outs". And all the time there we run only one a/c unit, water heater is on gas as needed. If their power browns out this time we'd like to stay our booked two weeks & that will explain why we'd like to run the generator. So we have at least one a/c unit & the residential refrig to run. Can you offer any better alternatives ? Yes, provide that information in the first place. Yes I am aware of that. I was replying to the questions asked by mci7. Bill in FL498Views0likes0CommentsRe: Question on fuel consumed by our generator AND ??
mci7 wrote: Still the question WHY do you want to run the generator while plugged into the post ? IF it is to try to run both A/C units, 1 from genset and 1 from the post, that is stupid at best, would guess an different tactic. Seems the gasoline usage is a large issue, with all the campers you have purchased, money would not be an issue. If you were at a suitable rv park, they would have 50 amp service I would ASSUME. At best the max power offered at Sebastian is 30 amps. Our last two trips there we had to leave early due to their "brown outs". And all the time there we run only one a/c unit, water heater is on gas as needed. If their power browns out this time we'd like to stay our booked two weeks & that will explain why we'd like to run the generator. So we have at least one a/c unit & the residential refrig to run. Can you offer any better alternatives ?498Views0likes0CommentsRe: Question on fuel consumed by our generator AND ??
FormerBoater wrote: More real world experience here: -at 15 minutes running a gasoline generator...neighbors politely ask you to turn it off. -at 30 minutes, CO detectors at your adjoining campsites start to alarm. -at 1 hour park rangers knock on your door and politely remind you that your power connection is the appropriate electrical source to power your air conditioners and other applicances. -at 1 hour and 30 minutes, we just all go over and turn the damn thing off. -at this point you have consumed < two gallons of fuel and generated huge amounts of animosity and carbon monoxide. This is obviously a troll thread...no one runs a generator in a Florida state park with 30 amp service. No troll here ! Just trying to learn about fuel consumption of out generator & what it may cost to run it when needed. What the heck is a TROLL ?499Views0likes0CommentsRe: Question on fuel consumed by our generator AND ??
et2 wrote: The actual fuel burn has been posted to this unit. If anyone wants to follow the links provided you can obtain this same information for any of your Onan generators. Here it is again for those who want to verify the information. http://power.cummins.com/onanpowerWeb/navigation.do?pageId=521 I had to guess at my model number but it looks close & the site you provided said .4 gal with no load & then .7 with a half a load. Any way you look at it, this running the genny will not be an inexpensive thing to do. We have done fine before with an older Class A but for some reason this one does present us with this power problem. Thanks for your input !498Views0likes0Comments
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