All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: 1/2 ton or 3/4 tonI wonder what the best method is to determine the actual tongue weight? I guess park the TV on a certified scale, weigh it, then unhook the TT, ensuring the tongue jack is off of the scale and take the difference.Re: 1/2 ton or 3/4 tonI would assume that as the weight of the TT goes up from the UVW, the tongue weight will also increase proportionally. The tongue weight I gave was what the Mfg. had listed on its website for the camper. Thanks though, that's something else to keep in mind.Re: 1/2 ton or 3/4 tonI've heard and read that one should try not to exceed 80% of the stated tow capacity of the TV. This builds in a factor of safety. I'm looking at a Grand Design Imagine 2500RL with a UVW of 5,857 lbs and a GVWR of 7,495 lbs and a hitch weight of 581 bs. If I assume a normal trailer weight of say 7,000 lbs. and I want that to be my 80% mark, I need to look for a max tow capacity of 8,750 lbs. We're looking at a F-150 5.0l 4X4 with 6.5 ft bed (157" wheelbase)and 3.73 axle. Its stated towing capacity is 11,600; with a WDH the hitch capacity is 1,320 lbs., and the max payload is 2,640 (with Heavy Duty Payload Package). So, Trailer Weight = 7,500 lbs. < 80% of truck's towing capacity = 9,280 lbs.(0.8 x 11,600 lbs.) Hitch weight is 581 lbs. < truck's hitch capacity (with WDH) of 1,320 lbs. Payload: me and the wife-420 lbs., dog-65 lbs., firewood-200 lbs., hitch weight-581 lbs. = 1,266 lbs. << 2,640 lbs. The numbers seem to work well... Am I missing anything?Re: Blew Out Black Water Tank Jayco 23BYes, mine were loose, but I molded them around the edges to achieve a much tighter fit. Still, I think the brackets are the main support and the straps are probably meant to be a back-up.Re: Blew Out Black Water Tank Jayco 23BWell, the repair is complete. I verified that the vent was clear, so it had to have been the weight of the water that caused the tank to drop. I did notice softness in the underside of the floor around some of the support brackets. I had to reposition a few to screw into solid wood. I found the metal straps from a local mobile home supply company. and replaced the two thinner straps with a total of four thicker straps, two of which I attached to the metal frame of the camper. While down there, I replaced the black water gate valve. Guess I'll have to wait until next season to test it our properly, but it seemed to turn out pretty well.Re: Blew Out Black Water Tank Jayco 23B enblethen wrote: Mobile home supply. Straps are used to secure them to foundation. Great idea! Thanks.Re: Blew Out Black Water Tank Jayco 23B Lynnmor wrote: You must find out if the vent is completely open. Sometimes the vent pipe drops down and rests on the bottom of the tank. Also check if there is scrap from the cutout a inside. If the tank was overfilled, it should have poured onto the roof. Sure, check the straps, but nothing will hold a blocked tank. My thoughts exactly. I hope to be able to check into this today or tomorrow. I'll post what I find. Any ideas as to where I could find galvanized metal straps of the right gauge, width, and length?Re: Blew Out Black Water Tank Jayco 23B BTPO1 wrote: enblethen wrote: The rubber grommets normally do not use any adhesive. They normally have grease to insert the pipe and then it is friction tight to prevent leaks. When the tank bulged from excess water the straps failed. Use something better then strapping. I have seen U-strut used and angle iron. X2, I would also use bolts and nylock nuts to hold the channel or uni-strut in place instead of screws. JMO Any pics I could reference?Re: Blew Out Black Water Tank Jayco 23BI'm not certain about the root cause of the strap failure. Was it the weight of the water or was it the weight plus the water pressure that built up combined that caused the failure? If I find a blockage in the vent then I'd say the latter.Blew Out Black Water Tank Jayco 23BI hooked up the Flush King to clean out our black water tank, turned on the garden hose, then started doing something else. This was a big mistake! I forgot about filling the black water tank! I ran down to the camper and turned off the water, but too late, the damage was done. But I am a little puzzled about what happened. I found the black water tank laying on the ground under the camper. It had separated from the toilet flange fitting and broke the metal holding straps. However, there was no liquid INSIDE the camper. Apparently the toilet valve held. The black water tank has two openings in its top: one larger for the toilet and one smaller for the vent line. I do not understand why no water escaped though the vent, unless it was plugged. I'll be checking it out this weekend when I have time to work on it. Both openings in the tank have/had rubber grommets into which the ABS plastic pipe fit. Black ABS cement was used to seal these fittings. No fittings were damaged, so I will reassemble everything and replace the straps. Questions: How should I prepare the plastic pipe and rubber grommet for the cement? Does the cement require any kind of activator / primer to be applied to the fittings? Thanks.
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