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Beach-Rat wrote: Doom and gloom.. Just got back from a month in Florida escaping the winter weather that wasn't so bad at home.. Dry camped for the first time in an RV park setting (vs a truck stop). I was the only Champion 3500/4000 in a sea of red and blue.. Cheese & Crackers! was our Champion ever loud! No practical way to quiet it down so I guess I'll be shopping for a super quiet before I go back.. From across the campground you can hear the Champion's mechanical noise. Maybe draining the Mobile-1 and use 30w for starters.. Will quiet it down a little.. Are you comparing the Champion 3500/4000 to the Honda and Yamaha inverters? I believe the 3500/4000 is rated at 68dBA @ 23 feet. Versus 53 dBA for the Champion 2000i. So an additional 15 dBA is considerably louder. I think a Champion 2000i (or two) would have been a great deal more discreet. Just my 2 cents.429Views0likes0CommentsRe: The Official unofficial CPE 2000i Generator Thread
bondebond wrote: professor95 wrote: MrRchitty wrote: Angus_NB wrote: One thing I do with all generators is use synthetic oil. It doesn't get as thick in the cold so pulling the engine over is much easier. It may not start any better but you can pull more times before passing out. :) I use synthetic, as well. Synthetic is great - unless your oil change is 9 gallons. :B And here I was, thinking I had it bad on 6.5 quarts... You win! I've lost that part of this thread, but wasn't it discussed about not using synthetic in the generator? I know using dino isn't BAD, but thought there wasn't much benefit to synthetic over regular. And maybe that's just because of my particular usage: not enough use to warrant needing to change the oil more than once a year. And only that to keep the oil fresh. Thoughts??? If you do your oil changes on your own vehicles, you will be able to answer your own questions in regards to synthetic versus dino oil. Personally, I see no reason to use dino oil anymore, except for the break-in period of a new engine. Synthetic is so much superior.269Views0likes0CommentsRe: The Official unofficial CPE 2000i Generator Thread
Update on the 'sliced' wires inside the Champion 2000. Yesterday I finally took apart all three Champion 2000 that I own. What I found is the following: First, all three units had the same two wires that were rubbing against other parts of the genny. I saw friction against the plastic floor of the unit, against the part of the engine under or near the pull cord and against a piece of plastic behind the carb/air filter area. Second, since each unit is assembled by human beings, there are some slight differences as to the position of the wires. Meaning that in one unit I had a wire rubbing against the plastic piece near the carb, while in the other two I did not. In one unit I had two wires rubbing against the pull cord area. I solved the problem of the wires by simply moving them further away from the friction points. In one case, two wires are going around a kind of small plastic box; I simply pushed it away from the pull cord area. Both wires wrapped around that small plastic box were rubbing against the pull cord area and the insulation was gone to some degree. Since I have three units and ran them in different locations, I observed ths following: Running the unit on a lawn will help a great deal at reducing vibration and therefore rubbing of the wires. Running on a concrete floor (garage), also helped but not as much as running on the lawn. The worst was by far on my balcony with a fiberglass floor. Over there vibration were pretty bad and resulted in the greatest damages to the wires. I could feel the vibration throughout the house. The pics I posted are from that unit. Hope it helps.268Views0likes0CommentsRe: The Official unofficial CPE 2000i Generator Thread
MrWizard wrote: maybe the parallel kit is a luxury accessory and not a tool. ? No. Companies in Canada like to sell their goods at inflated prices compared to America. It was understandable when the $CAD was only worth 60-75% of the $USD. But with both dollars at or near parity for some time now, it is a bit of a stretch to be charging 58% more. In particular from a company like Costco. It's not a big deal for me as I have friends in America and I usually get them to buy what I want and pay them back when I visit them and pick up my items. I love encouraging the American economy and people. :) Canada $ versus America $ P.S. Sorry to be off-topic. P.P.S. The Heinz ketchup sold at Costco in America is different than the Heinz ketchup sold at Costco in Canada. I prefer the American version.268Views0likes0CommentsRe: The Official unofficial CPE 2000i Generator Thread
beemerphile1 wrote: PrivatePilot wrote: ...Champions sold in Canada DO have parallel connections, and the parallel kit is freely available... That is great, here in the states I had to pay for mine. :B That's because we are a FREE country where everything costs more than America ;)268Views0likes0CommentsRe: The Official unofficial CPE 2000i Generator Thread
shum02 wrote: Bernadette Shoe wrote: The Honda sold in Canada does not allow parallel operation. Apparently due to the fact that the kit connecting the units has never been CSA approved. . This I was not aware of. Looking at Costco Cda's site they advertise that it is parallel capable although they no longer have a link to the parallel kit. Last time I was at the store in Etobicoke they had the cable kit in stock? The Champion sold in Canada and America does allow parallel connection. I also have the kit and it is rated at 25 amps or 3000 watts. Somehow, Costco feels that Canadians do not deserve to pay $60 for the parallel kit like in America, but should pay $95 (58% more) than Americans. I guess that's because we are not good enough... Btw, if I would have decided on buying two Honda eu2000, I would have driven to Syracuse, NY and bought them from a store for $1,000 each. I naturally would have also bought the connecting cable. The only drawback of doing so is that when/if you need service during the warranty period, you need to drive south of the border to have it serviced. Naturally, you will pay $1,000/each + 6% NY sales tax + 13% HST when crossing back at the border. Still cheaper than $1,400 + 13%. Though I wouldn't have done it for the money, but because I really wanted parallel connection. Got to Costco.ca, do a search on 'generator', then click on the Champion 2000, and the click on 'add to cart' on the second item, 'parallel-cable kit' at $94.99.296Views0likes0CommentsRe: The Official unofficial CPE 2000i Generator Thread
Angus_NB wrote: Duganoz wrote: Well I didn't (but should have) expected the reaction to my post. Yup! new to the RV world but not to electricity. I completely agree with all the rational expressed here but my point is simply that they are not equal. That is all I was meaning to state. I'm not going to read all the previous posts either (I tried) and felt this was worthy of pointing out since it appeared to be a popular topic. No offense was intended. Stupid new guy. If you had read through the thread you wouldn't have found many (if any) posts where we thought the Champion was equal to the Honda. The Champion is a 1600 watt generator (despite the name), the Honda is a 2000. We know that and accept 400 watt loss at a $500 discount. I disagree with your statements and find them highly misleading. The Champion 2000 is a 1700 watts continuous genny. I ran it for hours pulling 1700 watts and the overload light never came on. But as soon as I reached about 1730W, the overload light came on. In terms of power, the difference between the Honda and the Champion is that the Honda is capable of giving between 1700-2000W for a short period of time (minutes) without apparently any problem. While the Champion lasts no more than 10 seconds at 1900W. But it should be noted that as per the Honda eu2000 owner's manual: Substantial overloading will switch off the AC circuit protector. Exceeding the time limit for maximum power operation or slightly overloading the generator may not switch the AC circuit protector OFF, but will shorten the service life of the generator. Limit operation requiring maximum power to 30 minutes. Maximum power is: 2,000 VA For continuous operation, do not exceed the rated power. Rated power is: 1,600 VA So it seems that for those who need between 1700w and 2000w for short periods of time, the Honda is a better fit than the Champion. But for all those who can live with 1700w on a continuous basis, the Champion might be a better choice. Other factors that need to be taken into account are as follow: In America you can get two Champion for the price of a single Honda. In Canada you can get three Champion for the price of a single Honda. The Honda is smaller than the Champion and quieter when pushed to its limit. But at idle (low rpm) speed, the two gennys compare very favorably in terms of noise. Although the Honda is smaller, it might not be enough of a factor to go with one instead of the other. The Champion offers a very interesting design with the ability to stack them one on top of the other when used in parallel. The Honda sold in Canada does not allow parallel operation. Apparently due to the fact that the kit connecting the units has never been CSA approved. P.S. I know I am talking about watts instead of VA, but generators are mostly advertised in terms of watts. Though I agree it makes more sense to talk in terms of VA. P.P.S. For durability, I do not think it is desirable to run either one past 1600VA. Exceeding this limit will most likely shorten the life of the unit.296Views0likes0CommentsRe: The Official unofficial CPE 2000i Generator Thread
jiveturkey692000 wrote: I didnt even know this Gen existed. That changes my search. Bout time there was a cheaper alternative to the Honda and Yamaha! I also am not reading 219 pages. Lol I read the whole 219 pages. It only took me a week. Lots and lots of interesting facts. ;) Now there is that other monster thread with a zillion posts about the 3000 watts chinese generators. I haven't even started on that one.202Views0likes0CommentsRe: The Official unofficial CPE 2000i Generator Thread
Angus_NB wrote: In Canada, or at lest my area, Shell and Petro-Can don't put ethanol in there regular grade gasoline, 87 octane. In my hood, Petro-Can has 10% of whatever garbage they put in. I stopped by Esso and discovered that the cheap stuff (regular gasoline) has 10%, the mid-grade has 5% and the premium stuff has none of that garbage. I'll stop by Shell to find out what's the story.202Views0likes0Comments
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