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Re: v10 torque vrs diesel
daveshan wrote: crappie_fisherman wrote: I will say that I found a flaw in my diesel...HEAT...it was only in the low 50's driving home yesterday afternoon for about 2 hours...turning on the dash mounted heat all the way to the full heat position barely produced any appreciable heat at all...I can see why folks go south for the winter in these things! Joe. Joe, not uncommon, you have 40+ feet of uninsulated hose running from the heat source to the heater core. Plus diesels tend to run a bit cooler than gassers in the first place. In fact it's probably closer to 50' once you count in all the bends. most all diesels that I have owned and own all run 190ish so that is not the problem(sufficient engine heat).Like others said 50 feet of hose and then through a heater core no bigger than the one in your van or pickup and add all the open space your trying to heat.Mine is sufficient even in cold weather but I sure dont ever turn it off high in the colder drives247Views0likes0CommentsRe: v10 torque vrs diesel
427435 wrote: uncleluap wrote: argue till the cows come home but a known fact is this. A 400Hp 500Lb torque gas engine will not propel a 34-38K lb MH up 7% grade at the same speed and ease as a ISL cummns 400HP 1250 lb torque engine nor will it be as fuel efficient nor will it run as cool nor will it even last 1/10 what a cummins diesel will and thats why u do not see this happening in this day and age. Sorry, but you are wrong as far as how fast. Speed will be determined by hp. If the gas engine has enough transmission speeds to keep the engine at or near it's peak hp, it will keep up with a diesel of the same hp. The only caveat to that would be at higher altitudes where the turbo'd diesel would gain an advantage as its hp would not drop off as fast. Of course, many gas car engines (and gas PU engines) are gaining turbos these days, so that caveat could disappear in the future. I disagree.MH Too heavy and not enough torgue to keep up to the load faction to be equal to the diesel. it would take way too low of a gear ratio to attain what U claim.I suppose in some obscure land of theory(what your in) it may succeed but in my world(reality) there is no way no how and thats why U will not see such a situation as I aluded to in previous posts.SO in theory U may have a valid idea(point) But in REALITY there is no such situation250Views0likes0CommentsRe: v10 torque vrs diesel
argue till the cows come home but a known fact is this. A 400Hp 500Lb torque gas engine will not propel a 34-38K lb MH up 7% grade at the same speed and ease as a ISL cummns 400HP 1250 lb torque engine nor will it be as fuel efficient nor will it run as cool nor will it even last 1/10 what a cummins diesel will and thats why u do not see this happening in this day and age.335Views0likes0CommentsRe: v10 torque vrs diesel
we can banter back and forth till the cows come home,use 5252X whatever Use whatever formula u were taught.I have no knowledge of such stuff I absolutely know one thing for sure.There is not a V8 or V10 in production today that come,s even close to being able to feasable propel a 40+Ft 4 slide 34K motorhome down the road and up mountain passes and if there was we would be seeing them.thats why we only see engines like the 425 8.9L cummins doing the job and not ford V10.thats my opinion284Views0likes0CommentsRe: Fire Hazard Appliance Recalls UPDATED NORCOLD INFO 11-20-2010
Plumgrubby? your post quote: In my estimation, it's futile to keep toying with the Norcold refrigerator. The "fix" for fires is only activated when it senses an actual fire and does not prevent fires from occurring. It shuts down the unit only after a fire is detected!! I had it done to my Norcold as soon as I found out about it but then I realized that I had to keep my unit constantly on 9 to keep it cool at best. this is terribley untrue and not even responsible posting. the recall sensor is designed to sences a hi operating temperature and shuts the fridge off so the possibility of fire is eliminated If u had to keep it on 9 then yes there is a problem with your fridge I have owned several 1200 fridges and have never used over 6 and norm is 5424Views0likes0CommentsRe: v10 torque vrs diesel
Cloud Dancer wrote: uncleluap, Please explain this, because I don't believe it's the reason: "......The reason you don't see gassers in bigger MH's is that the people with the money for a 40' MH are also willing to pay the money for an air-ride suspension system and to have the engine/transmission in the back (quieter)...." sorry cant help you as i never posted that dribble? I laughed actually when i saw that as in my opinion thats not the reason.I think u mixed up my stuff with others perhaps/283Views0likes0CommentsRe: v10 torque vrs diesel
Jarlaxle wrote: uncleluap wrote: 427435 I absolutely disagree with your statement: Again, it's not the torque but the hp (and enough gears) that actually move a MH uphill. The reason you don't see gassers in bigger MH's is that the people with the money for a 40' MH are also willing to pay the money for an air-ride suspension system and to have the engine/transmission in the back (quieter). first off air ride suspention has nothing to do with what we are discussing and as i alluded to earlier there just is not a gas engine avaialable that has the torque or durabilty to propel 40Ft+ 36k+ motorhomes down the road. its been tryed before and failed miserable This post can only be called a LIE. why is it a lie? I thought it was called an opinion of whats being discussed ? You will never see nor have you ever seen a 40ft+ 4 slide 34+K motorhome powered by a 400 lb torque v8 or V10 If you disagree so be it but dont be calling people liers just because u simple disagree with their ideals(opinion)284Views0likes0CommentsRe: v10 torque vrs diesel
427435 wrote: Many of you are confusing force (torque) with power and work (hp) and need to re-take physics 101. Torque is the force on the axle TRYING to turn it. There can be a lot of torque on that axle BUT, if it is not turning, there is no movement of the MH and no WORK being done. When it is turning, there is WORK being done. The faster the axle turns, the more work (hp) is being done. Remember that a 1000 hp gas turbine may only have 175 ft-lbs maximum torque, but it is spinning at 30,000 rpm. And it will move a tank nicely and last a long time. A 350 hp gas engine will do as much WORK as a 350 hp diesel engine. It may not last as long operating at max hp as a diesel engine, but that is due to design targets the engineers were given. The gas engine will also need more gear reduction to keep it in its peak hp rpm range. so then in theory your claiming a 350 HP gas engine will power the the 34000lb MH up a hill at the same rate and speed as the 350HP cimmins will? just operating at different RPM ratings?gas being 3X what the diesel is reving213Views0likes0CommentsRe: v10 torque vrs diesel
427435 I absolutely disagree with your statement: Again, it's not the torque but the hp (and enough gears) that actually move a MH uphill. The reason you don't see gassers in bigger MH's is that the people with the money for a 40' MH are also willing to pay the money for an air-ride suspension system and to have the engine/transmission in the back (quieter). first off air ride suspention has nothing to do with what we are discussing and as i alluded to earlier there just is not a gas engine avaialable that has the torque or durabilty to propel 40Ft+ 36k+ motorhomes down the road. its been tryed before and failed miserable207Views0likes0Comments
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