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Re: Diesel vs gas......................
Jarlaxle wrote: klc4885 wrote: This is a funny argument now a days... If someone buys a truck you will have to assume it was for a reason. Towing and hauling comes to mind I personally can't think of any advantage other than initial investment being a little lower to choose a gas truck over a diesel. I imagine light hauling would probably drive a lighter duty gas truck, but since this is gas vs diesel and there are essentially no lighter trucks with diesels out there to speak of it's about the heavier duty type pickups. Cost and problems down the road. I love diesels, but wouln't own a new one if you GAVE it to me. I woud pay more to NOT get a diesel engine at this point. The data suggest different, but this reply is really a different argument, with the original post I am assuming that the question is directed to poeple that could afford both, and why is one better than the other. Again I would assume since this question resides in RV.NET Tow Vehicle section it's about towing RV's... I will look and see if I can find it, but there was just an article published where a man had put 320K on a cummins 6.7 cummins installed a new motor in his truck and tested the old one with results that verified the motor had barely any signs of ware passing all the test that a new production motor passed, I read the dodge article would venture to guess Ford and GM results would be similiar. Maybe somebody has an argument for the gas engine how much you bet that is the truck they own? Diesel engines have got so much more torque in todays trucks 800 ft lbs that the gas ones simply can't keep up. Most of the most powerful truck gas motors are about half that for a very thin slice of the over all RPMs... Modern gassers have a table-flat torque curve. If pulling a grade means running WOT and 4-5000rpm...then it does. It wont hurt anything. They are better, just not as good as the diesel's the data shows it "no dispute" these gas engines are simply out gunned at pulling "which again I am assuming is the question" Living in Washington I get to see living proof all the time of this. You go any direction living on the west side of washington and you have to go over a pass. I pass poeple struggling up these passes everytime I travel mostly it's someone pulling a good size trailer with a gas truck. When you look at the specs for these power plants it's not hard to explain why that is "including the newer ones". If the topics stated that I'm good with just moving my load I don't need to maintain speed going up grades I guess you would be correct. Still does not change the facts Diesel is a better tow vehicle, that's why they use them to tow freight. I think you have a good point just not here... I ghink the real argument should be if you tow or haul so little that the cost works out in the favor of a gas truck, you might want to consider looking at renting a diesel when you need it... If you have a heavier duty truck and don't tow or haul it's really just a car and opens up a whole new argument. Not many loads that a diesel truck can haul that the equivilant truck with gas power can't. This may be the one argument I will not win with the payload limitations on 1 ton and 3/4 ton trucks that amount of weight being so little probably shouldn't matter a gas or a diesel truck of this size should especially the newer trucks, be able and very capable to "haul" loads up to the maximum capacity. We are talking around 5000lbs maximum I'm assuming? It would be nice if the mfg had a standard where they could give you a limitation and had some test to verify the capability of a trucks ability to move a load maybe a maximum weight, and a maximum grade that it could say maintain 60 MPH, This standard would help answer questions like say at what point do I need to buy the diesel motor "drivetrain" to maintain speed based on my application. You would always be able to give somewhere that may swing this like living in an area thats basically flat, or are you willing to possibly not maintain speed up grades ETC. Bottom line a diesel motor has more torque per volume than any gas motor by far in production trucks. The laws of physics are clear that by volume diesel fuel has more energy than gas does by far, that's why it's so hard to beat in a towing application.474Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
This is a funny argument now a days... If someone buys a truck you will have to assume it was for a reason. Towing and hauling comes to mind I personally can't think of any advantage other than initial investment being a little lower to choose a gas truck over a diesel. I imagine light hauling would probably drive a lighter duty gas truck, but since this is gas vs diesel and there are essentially no lighter trucks with diesels out there to speak of it's about the heavier duty type pickups. Maybe somebody has an argument for the gas engine how much you bet that is the truck they own? Diesel engines have got so much more torque in todays trucks 800 ft lbs that the gas ones simply can't keep up. Most of the most powerful truck gas motors are about half that for a very thin slice of the over all RPMs... I think the real argument should be if you tow or haul so little that the cost works out in the favor of a gas truck, you might want to consider looking at renting a diesel when you need it... If you have a heavier duty truck and don't tow or haul it's really just a car and opens up a whole new argument.442Views0likes0Comments
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