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He was surprised that the SWM8 worked at all, so I guess I'm lucky I can use both tuners in the DVR. He said that Whole House will not work at all, it requires a HD dish. I surmise that the HD signal from the dish is what is modulated in the receiver for Whole Home to work. 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I obtained a SWM8, 29V PI, and 1x4 green label splitter (not used) from Amazon for around $50 for everything. The King Dome has only 2 outputs, labeled 'MAIN' and 'AUX'. Everything I've read about the SWM8 says to hook up 4 wires from the antenna to the SWM8. Since I only had 2, those are the ones I hooked up. Main into the 13V input and AUX into the 18V input. Then I put the PI inline behind the DVR and wired it through with power to the roof on the existing line. Then I went back on the roof with a meter to check that the cable that formerly was wired into the KD 'MAIN' input is the one that had voltage from the PI. Can't be too sure. So that coax went into the SWM1/Power input, the other home run to the bedroom receiver went into the SWM2 output. The result of all this after several days of re-booting and checking cables is that I now have 2 tuners working in the DVR and can watch one show while recording another. And the Bedroom receiver works fine. BUT, I cannot get multi-room (whole home) to work, no matter what. I have run a long CAT-5 on the floor between the two HR24s, no difference. Both receivers are authorized for Whole Home. I've played with IP addresses to make sure they were on the same sub-net. I put the Ethernet cable through a switch and it appears that packets are being sent. But no matter what I've done, Whole Home status says that there are no other receivers networked. Just not going to happen. BTW, the H24 series do not require a DECA or bandpass filter, they are built in. I don't know if it needs to hooked up to a HD dish (which the King Dome is not) in order to power a frequency band that Whole home uses or what the answer is. (Other than it's probably the King Dome) There are those pesky 2 unused inputs..... The SWM8 appears to be working properly so I would assume (yes, I know) that the connections would take place in the SWM8 between the H24s.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"1946","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1753121":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","subject":"Re: DirecTV DVR with King Dome - How to use 2 tuners","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1753109"},"id":"message:1753121","revisionNum":1,"uid":1753121,"depth":1,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:92509"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":817},"postTime":"2015-05-05T08:52:37.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-05-05T08:52:37.000-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":"Did a Google search for 'directv whole home wiring diagram' and came up with a lot of good information and diagrams. Both my receivers are H24 series, so are SWM compatible. So it looks like if I do the SWM8 on the roof, PI at the main receiver, I will then have Whole Home (RV) and can watch recordings in the bedroom. Next stop, Amazon. Thanks everyone for pointing me in the right direction.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"401","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1753119":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","subject":"Re: DirecTV DVR with King Dome - How to use 2 tuners","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1753109"},"id":"message:1753119","revisionNum":1,"uid":1753119,"depth":1,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:92509"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":816},"postTime":"2015-05-04T20:55:33.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-05-04T20:55:33.000-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":"So much great info. I like the idea of mounting the SWM8 on the roof using both KD ouputs as inputs to the SWM8. Then plugging the existing coax(s) into 2 of the outputs. I'm assuming the other outputs would need to be terminated. Then just mount the power inserter as a pass through to the DVR on the main TV. Just checking, then the bedroom receiver does NOT need a PI? Just the straight coax from the roof mounted SWM8 (which is getting its' power from the DVR PI. Would this setup enable 'whole home' viewing? 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I don't know if it's actually possible to re-wire the coach as the 'front' TV is actually mid-coach, and that home run makes a couple of turns and may travel through the wall. Don't know. May be more trouble than it's worth.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"316","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1753111":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","subject":"Re: DirecTV DVR with King Dome - How to use 2 tuners","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1753109"},"id":"message:1753111","revisionNum":1,"uid":1753111,"depth":1,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:92509"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":181},"postTime":"2015-05-04T06:53:44.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-05-04T06:53:44.000-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":"Sorry, should have been even more clear. The main KD coax is going to the front AV area. The Aux KD coax is already in use going to the bedroom receiver. So both KD outputs are already in use, but not tied like a SWM setup so the bedroom receiver can't see the DVRs recorded shows. What has to happen is for the main output to be split to hit both tuners. I don't think a common splitter will do the job. 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There is, of course, no internet between the 2. Thought about running a x-over cat-5 between them, but it's a lot of work as the bedroom TV is in a slide, and I don't know if it would work. Do-able, but hard. 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