Ford's answers to the NHTSA 6.7 Investigation

8iron wrote:

And another thing, we are not all scientists or engineers, most here and other forums are hard working people who just want to learn, like to tinker, enjoy life, and drive our vehicles....sorry if we have an opinion. Speaking down to us is why most hold engineers and other know it alls in such contempt.

There is nothing wrong with having an opinion, and what you do with your business / vehicle / self is your problem.

There is plenty wrong with what I have seen happen to Rickatic, being shouted down, harassed, because he said something someone doesn't like to hear.

Hear out his facts, if not his opinion.

Rick may not be an expert in any particular field of engineering, and then neither am I, but Rickatic demonstrated a keen ability to look, see, and accurately and faithfully report facts to all of us, which allowed experts who do know something to make a go at understanding what is going on.

I am still not sure or, in disagreement with Rickatic about lubricity being the concern. The issue, based on what I know, is in the high tech coatings.

Yet, over and over, I have seen forum participants insist that it can't be something they cannot touch, feel, see causing a problem.

Instead of letting him report, they have chosen to shut him down --- on the theory that if he is silenced (as if it can be done), the problem goes away.

Rick may not have access to the engineering /technical community, but he sure is the kind of person I would rely on as a test site because I trust his reports will be factual, accurate, and complete.

So why should anyone shout him down? Unless they have other agendas?


As for the disconnect between the customers (like Rick) and the engineers buried in Bosch...


Dare we say there is a big disconnect between the technical and engineering community and the average user? In fact, the gap is hardly any less between Ford certified technicians and the specialist engineers and technicians that handle as esoteric a field as high pressure common rail injection systems.

That is a matter of fact.

There is no "talking down" and no more than a statement that the two communities (users/field techs) and OEM engineers are basically talking different languages, and essentially, not making themselves understood.

We got users (Rick for example) saying "I got a real problem"

Ford (relying on Bosch) says "you caused it because it is impossible otherwise".


I am trying to help these two communities talk to each other --- without either having to raise their voice.