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jidro
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Jan 08, 2018

AZ to WA avoiding steep hills

Hello. I am driving my RV from Tucson, AZ to Ocean Shores, WA. I have done this trip a few times, but never with a 31 ft travel trailer. I always take I-10 to I-5, a straight route from Arizona to Washington. I remember passing through steep hills in Siskiyou mountains (northern CA and southern Oregon) and I think was Angeles Forest near LA. Can you recommend the best routes to avoid steep hills for my travel from AZ to WA. I don't mind going a longer route, as long as I can avoid steep hills. As you can see, I am newly retired and new to RVing. Thank you in advance.
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  • jidro's avatar
    jidro
    Explorer II
    Jan 09, 2018
    I am learning a lot from this community. Thanks for all the advice. I do have another question which I am not sure if its the right forum. I think it was time2roll that mentioned a change of axle from 3.55 ratio to 4.10 ratio. How big a difference is that in towing capability? It probably sucks more gas but if it increases towing capability, why not? Its not like I am using my truck a lot. Any opinions? By the way, mine is currently at 3.73 ratio. Thanks guys and gals.
  • time2roll's avatar
    time2roll
    Nomad
    Jan 09, 2018
    JohnG3 wrote:
    There is a KOA in Yermo that’s easy in and out. As you get about 10 miles or from Barstow keep an eye out for the Yermo-Daggett off ramp. Not much around the off ramp. Go right about 3 miles and cross under I-15 and turn left on the frontage road. The KOA is a couple hundred feet west.

    When you leave get on I 15 toward Barstow and Hwy. 58 to Bakersfield.
    And the gas stations there charge $1 more per gallon than the truck stops 10 miles west at the Barstow outlet stores off ramp (lenwood rd).
  • Jayco-noslide's avatar
    Jayco-noslide
    Explorer
    Jan 09, 2018
    I didn't think you originally mentioned snow. A slick highway is good reason to be scared and I would avoid it if possible.
  • JohnG3's avatar
    JohnG3
    Explorer II
    Jan 09, 2018
    2gypsies wrote:
    If you always take I-10 to I-5 that's worse than hills! :) You have all the Los Angeles traffic.

    Take I-10 to 95 north at Quartzsite, AZ to Parker to Lake Havasu to I-40 west to Barstow, CA to Bakersfield then I-5 north to Napa, CA then get over to 101 north to Ocean Shores, WA

    Plan a stop at Lake Havasu because once you get on I-40 there isn't much until you get to Bakersfield.

    Really, you shouldn't have any problem with a 31' trailer if you want to take I-5 straight up.... in good weather. I hope you're not leaving Tucson now. It's beautiful weather... best in the country. :)


    X2 on this route. There is a KOA in Yermo that’s easy in and out. As you get about 10 miles or from Barstow keep an eye out for the Yermo-Daggett off ramp. Not much around the off ramp. Go right about 3 miles and cross under I-15 and turn left on the frontage road. The KOA is a couple hundred feet west.

    When you leave get on I 15 toward Barstow and Hwy. 58 to Bakersfield.
  • jplante4's avatar
    jplante4
    Explorer II
    Jan 09, 2018
    Also, Google Earth Pro has an elevation feature. Set the start and end points of a leg and right click on the route. Select elevation. Looks like this.

  • Supercharged's avatar
    Supercharged
    Explorer
    Jan 09, 2018
    jidro wrote:
    Hello. I am driving my RV from Tucson, AZ to Ocean Shores, WA. I have done this trip a few times, but never with a 31 ft travel trailer. I always take I-10 to I-5, a straight route from Arizona to Washington. I remember passing through steep hills in Siskiyou mountains (northern CA and southern Oregon) and I think was Angeles Forest near LA. Can you recommend the best routes to avoid steep hills for my travel from AZ to WA. I don't mind going a longer route, as long as I can avoid steep hills. As you can see, I am newly retired and new to RVing. Thank you in advance.
    Go to La. rent 75 ft. barge the elv. should be the same all the way. You might want to put on chains in case it snows.
  • Lwiddis's avatar
    Lwiddis
    Explorer II
    Jan 09, 2018
    “Plan a stop at Lake Havasu because once you get on I-40 there isn't much until you get to Bakersfield”

    What’s in Bakersfield?
  • donn0128's avatar
    donn0128
    Explorer II
    Jan 08, 2018
    Pulled a 36 foot fivet with a 2500HD before switching to my current dually. Before that it was a 7500 pound TT behind a Tahoe. Gear down, brake hard and get off them to cool while your speed creaps up. Light braking or riding the brakes while going down hills will get you into a lot of trouble real fast.
  • Tom_Barb's avatar
    Tom_Barb
    Explorer
    Jan 08, 2018
    Staying in AZ for the winter is a good idea, after all, why do we have snow birds?

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AZ to WA avoiding steep hills","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2798053"},"body":"I am learning a lot from this community. Thanks for all the advice. I do have another question which I am not sure if its the right forum. I think it was time2roll that mentioned a change of axle from 3.55 ratio to 4.10 ratio. How big a difference is that in towing capability? It probably sucks more gas but if it increases towing capability, why not? Its not like I am using my truck a lot. Any opinions? By the way, mine is currently at 3.73 ratio. 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JohnG3 wrote:
There is a KOA in Yermo that’s easy in and out. As you get about 10 miles or from Barstow keep an eye out for the Yermo-Daggett off ramp. Not much around the off ramp. Go right about 3 miles and cross under I-15 and turn left on the frontage road. The KOA is a couple hundred feet west.

When you leave get on I 15 toward Barstow and Hwy. 58 to Bakersfield.
And the gas stations there charge $1 more per gallon than the truck stops 10 miles west at the Barstow outlet stores off ramp (lenwood rd).","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-01-09T07:38:07.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-01-09T07:38:07.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2042},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:BucketlistDestinations/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board/message:2798018/message:2798052","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:160729":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:160729","uid":160729,"login":"Jayco-noslide","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-11-24T07:09:10.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-1.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:160729"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2798051":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2798051","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2798051":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:160729"},"id":"message:2798051","revisionNum":1,"uid":2798051,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2798018"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2798018"},"subject":"Re: AZ to WA avoiding steep hills","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2798051"},"body":"I didn't think you originally mentioned snow. A slick highway is good reason to be scared and I would avoid it if possible.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"123","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-01-09T06:47:42.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-01-09T06:47:42.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2040},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:BucketlistDestinations/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board/message:2798018/message:2798051","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:259784":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:259784","uid":259784,"login":"JohnG3","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-07-26T20:25:34.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:259784"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2798050":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2798050","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2798050":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:259784"},"id":"message:2798050","revisionNum":1,"uid":2798050,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2798018"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2798018"},"subject":"Re: AZ to WA avoiding steep hills","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2798050"},"body":"
2gypsies wrote:
If you always take I-10 to I-5 that's worse than hills! :) You have all the Los Angeles traffic.

Take I-10 to 95 north at Quartzsite, AZ to Parker to Lake Havasu to I-40 west to Barstow, CA to Bakersfield then I-5 north to Napa, CA then get over to 101 north to Ocean Shores, WA

Plan a stop at Lake Havasu because once you get on I-40 there isn't much until you get to Bakersfield.

Really, you shouldn't have any problem with a 31' trailer if you want to take I-5 straight up.... in good weather. I hope you're not leaving Tucson now. It's beautiful weather... best in the country. :)


X2 on this route. There is a KOA in Yermo that’s easy in and out. As you get about 10 miles or from Barstow keep an eye out for the Yermo-Daggett off ramp. Not much around the off ramp. Go right about 3 miles and cross under I-15 and turn left on the frontage road. The KOA is a couple hundred feet west.

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jidro wrote:
Hello. I am driving my RV from Tucson, AZ to Ocean Shores, WA. I have done this trip a few times, but never with a 31 ft travel trailer. I always take I-10 to I-5, a straight route from Arizona to Washington. I remember passing through steep hills in Siskiyou mountains (northern CA and southern Oregon) and I think was Angeles Forest near LA. Can you recommend the best routes to avoid steep hills for my travel from AZ to WA. I don't mind going a longer route, as long as I can avoid steep hills. As you can see, I am newly retired and new to RVing. Thank you in advance.
Go to La. rent 75 ft. barge the elv. should be the same all the way. You might want to put on chains in case it snows.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-01-08T17:00:36.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-01-08T17:00:36.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1989},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:BucketlistDestinations/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board/message:2798018/message:2798048","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:299836":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:299836","uid":299836,"login":"Lwiddis","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-08-12T16:06:27.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:299836"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2798047":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2798047","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2798047":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:299836"},"id":"message:2798047","revisionNum":1,"uid":2798047,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2798018"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2798018"},"subject":"Re: AZ to WA avoiding steep hills","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2798047"},"body":"“Plan a stop at Lake Havasu because once you get on I-40 there isn't much until you get to Bakersfield”

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