Not turning in TIP?

briansue wrote:
Chris - how do you get them to cancel it if they don't take the sticker off themselves? Does it work to take your sticker off and mail it to them? Would they think the vehicle is still in Mexico? Or if the vehicle never actually crossed the border will their records show this? By your post are you offering to help those in need?

I won't do it anymore. It would have to be some extreme circumstance. In the past it was, a broken windshield, totaled, stolen or sold vehicle.

The person takes off the sticker and attaches it to a piece of paper. They enclose a letter explaining their circumstance along with the form that is floating around here somewhere. I like to have it notarized although it doesn't mean anything in Mexico it does provide some legitimacy to the cancellation and looks more official. Include passport to which the TIP is attached and driver's license. In the case of sold vehicle, all the documents you can muster; copies of title transfer, a print out from DMV of previous and new owner, photos of rv, check or form of money transfer and the new owner's ID showing home address. The more info you provide the better chances of getting it done fast. (It is always wise to make copies of all your TIP transaction in the case of loss or theft).

Once the documents have been received and you start checking on them (it's not a slow system, but an overburden system and takes time for the data to be entered into the system, it's not just rvs but all vehicle types including marine vessels), they will have assigned a folio (number) to your case. With that, you can begin to take names and do the follow. In all the five I did, the vehicle owners received an official cancellation notice in the mail. One took over three months.

I'm not an expert by any means but this was my experience. Even though it is a ten year permit, it can be canceled at anytime. So if someone has an inkling they might be selling their unit, cancel it.

Chris - how do you get them to cancel it if they don't take the sticker off themselves? Does it work to take your sticker off and mail it to them? Would they think the vehicle is still in Mexico? Or if the vehicle never actually crossed the border will their records show this? By your post are you offering to help those in need?

Drive to the nearest border crossing. Do it right and you won't have to worry about it. I canceled many permits for people. If you decide to attempt it by sending the paperwork via carrier and following up by phone, you will need to be fluent in Spanish for starters, able to understand a myriad of phone options in Spanish and then constant follow up for at least two months. I did five of these cancellations for other people.

Remember that a "receipt signature" from FedX or DHL, only says it was received at the address. Finding someone from there with the information if it hasn't been logged in yet can be difficult.

That's why I say, to it right and do it the easy way.

Tequila: First of all that is "sneaky" posting a link to your commercial web site. No web site that is not an official Mexican Aduana site is guaranteed to be 100 % factual. Mexico Mike is often incorrect. Heck even using information from an official website is not always correct! Depending on the situation that letter from the RCMP may not work. I went through hell cancelling my 10 year permit. I was able to call Mexico city and they insisted on paperwork that I did not have. But another forum member gave me some additional information and I was able to cancel the permit. My process started in Mexico in February and finally while I was in Canada this summer it was cancelled. Cost me a small fortune in DHL fees. I have some phone numbers that may help. From the USA or Canada call 1-877-448-8728. When prompted enter 7-2-2-1-1. The connections are very poor and I was never able to get anyone who spoke English. They are in one of those concrete rooms that sounds like talking in a barrel with lots of background noise From Mexico the number is 01-800-463-6728. But even with my often bad Spanish I was able to understand their requirements. Bottom line is that if you can go to the border do so! Sending paperwork to Aduana is risky. My first package could not be delivered. The office had moved and the person whose name was on the official Mexican website was now working elsewhere. The officials would not accept the package. I was lucky as Estafeta was the courier. The driver called me from Mexico City explaining what happened and he sent it all back to Hermosillo. I resent it and while in Canada they actually called me asking for further information. Much easier to just go to the border. I might also add that Turtle Toad's sticky has the best information available. No need to send people to some other website!

Moisheh

Well, darn. I guess we'll make the trip to El Paso. The moral of this story is to NOT get it online if there is ANY chance you'll not be going. And you know what God does when you make plans...he (or she) laughs. Thanks, guys. Susie

BTW, is the permit good for 180 days from the date you said you would enter?

Sounds like Case 2 is correct, but you can't mail it in. Mail does not work. The only thing that works is to send by DSL. But that cost about $50, however if you get back 200-$400 it is worth it.
But I still don't think their would be a fine if presenting the vehicle at border the next year.

keelhauler: Are you sure that your post is correct? Will there be a fine? The OP is in New Mexico. Do it the easy way . Drive to a border crossing and turn in the sticker properly.

Moisheh

Thanks, guys. I think we'll just forfeit the deposit.

Really not a problem. You will forfeit the money but when you bring the car in they can then take the sticker off and issue a new one in same name. Their object is to make sure the vehicle was not left in Mexico. So when they can verify the VIN and remove the sticker they are happy. Of course you lose your old deposit.

You can't. The permit you have expires in 180 days. At that point, you lose your deposit, and the ability to put another car in the name of the person who got the permit. If you have two names on the registration, you can always get a TIP for next time in that name. Your other choice is to follow the instructions on this website for trying to send your TIP to Mexico City and get it cancelled there. We tried it, it didn't work for us. Others have been successful.