Again, Admin Opening Tongass National Forest...

No, I'm not. I don't know he keeps doing this without any pushback, let alone why he's doing it.

2oldman wrote:
No, I'm not. I don't know he keeps doing this without any pushback, let alone why he's doing it.

When even people who are adversely affected like us won’t pushback, who else would we expect?

Or maybe like farmers only did when their pocketbooks and livelihood were threatened — hopefully not too late.

Is there a rule here somewhere about stupid posts?

What if children happened to come by this forum and read this?

Very few pay attention to what is going on...

^ You are right - personally I want to put my head firmly in the sand for the next year and a half.

No clue what this discussion is about. My head is already in the sand ... um... or how about ... in the corn field! I'm from Indiana you know, dodging combines on the road.

Trigger warning to children: Humor at the expense of environmentalism follows!

What else are we going to make all those paper straws from? :W

:):)

Another green joke? This is a National Forrest we're talking about. Remember...The Land Of Many Uses. Not a National Park, Not a Wildlife Preserve, Not a National Monument. Anyone out there ever actually camped (RV'd) in a logged over national forest? I have in a logged over area (the Tongas)in Alaska and it was wonderful. The logging companies maintained the roads, put in campsites (they were free), and furnished free firewood. We watched a bald eagle nest hatch 3 eggs while we were there. The slope was so great we looked DOWN into the nest. But there was NO erosion.

Until the tree huggers started trying to protect every tree, the logging industry in Alaska thrived. Yes, there were abuses, but those have ceased and the current management practices work well. It's a balance, trees grow and die, streams erode with or without logging, wildlife locate to the best area for them, be it virgin forest or cut over land renewing itself with planted trees.

Lets start to get real folks. Go camp there, THEN start to see what's really happening. Watch a grizzly use the Alaska Pipeline as a super highway for travel because it's easier than traveling the tundra, watch Musk Oxen using a 1 acre field surrounded by oil pipes at Prudhoe Bay as a refuge while their calves nursed and cavorted, and watch the horses and cattle grazing within 50' of producing oil wells in the Texas Permian Basin.

The vast majority of the **** you read is some die hard tree hugger who was never there, feeding stories to gullible news writers who are looking for a headline about anything. Wake Up and SEE IT then start a reasonable conversation.

Tongass national forest is plagued each year by numerous wild fires, Better forest management will prevent this.
The president's actions are a good for the forest.

I am a retired forester, and worked on a contract on the Tongass for two years. There are no mills left in Alaska. There is not going to be a big timber rush because the area is so remote and hard to get to. There are millions of acres of old growth Sitka spruce and western hemlock forests with some red and yellow cedar. Fires are almost nonexistent because it is so wet. Fuel just keeps building. It is a National Forest subject to the Multiple Use Sustained Yield Act of 1964.

Trust the environmental review process. Not all proposed projects get approved. One of the sensitive issues in SE is the salmon fishery, also plenty of protected wildlife species.

I am with pigman.