Cell service for Canadians in US

pianotuna wrote:
The closer connection form is from the US government. There is no better source that that. Read it.

The original information I found for the need to extend the "automatic" 90 day visa came from the Globe and Mail. That is hardly a "random" internet article.

Here is a link from the US government about the 90 visa.

https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/visit/visa-waiver-program.html

Here is a quote from the visa page.

"Overview

The Visa Waiver Program (VWP) enables most citizens or nationals of participating countries* to travel to the United States for tourism or business for stays of 90 days or less without first obtaining a visa, when they meet all requirements explained below."

You need to research this a bit more carefully. Being an Ostrich won't help you if you are turned back at the border.

Freedom polecat wrote:
Maybe go back and visit the border services sites or even the Canadian snowbirds site before quoting or posting a random internet article. You are definitely incorrect.

The VWP does not apply to Canada. The countries it applies to are listed.

pianotuna wrote:
Hi Lenny,

I don't see the ten gigs in USA option for $145. I do see it for $160.00

Lenny K wrote:
This year I think I'm going to try Telus. They offer 10gb data and unlimited calling and texting in Canada and in the USA for $145 a month.

It's $145 if you bring your own phone. Here is the link:

http://www.telus.com/en/bc/mobility/plans/?&linktype=products_and_services&INTCMP=TcomHomeTile_MOB_Plans#byod

Joe and luckyd,

I've sent you both a private message.

Pianotuna

Unfortunately you are very misinformed and you are
doing a great disservice to "newbies".

I realize that you will stand by your beliefs rather
than what is fact, so I will bow out of this forum.

Sorry for the off-topic post, but this mis-information to a newbie needs to be corrected.

pianotuna wrote:
Here is a link to the closer connections form. If you read who must file you will note that if you stayed 31 days in 2016 you are required to file the form.

I've never seen that 31 days requirement before and it isn't on the irs.gov website or in the 8840 form. I believe that information is incorrect.

For the visa information surf here:

VWP is not applicable to Canadians. A Canadian does NOT need to renew after 90 days.

Hi,

There is no "may" about it. If you go each year the limit is about 120 days because of the "carry forward".

The current law allows a 240 day stay if you own US property to the value of $250,000.00

The visa "twist" may have been in place just like the 183 (really 121) day rule. But until June of 2013 the border folks had to look up the information manually. Now it is automatic.

Just because folks "got away" with ignoring the visa limits for many years does not mean that such activity will not be without consequences in the new "electronic" age.

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luckyd wrote:

If you are going to the states on a frequent basis
you need to fill out Form 8840. This shows a closer tie
to Canada than the USA. It is for tax purposes only.
If you do not fill out the form each year you "MAY"
be only entitled to 120 days. This form must be sent in
by the end of June each year. You need to fill in each
years number of days for the past three years.

Homeland Security is the department that limits the stay
to 180 days.

The Canadian Snowbird Association has been trying to get
us 240 days per year. This is known as The Canadian Retirement Visa.
There will be certain rules that pertain to getting one.

I have been snowbirding for many years and each year I make sure
I am up to date on all R and R's regarding crossing the border.

Passport yes, but you don't need a visa or visa extension of any kind. I don't where he's getting that info from but it doesn't pertain to Canadians.

But yes the 8840 form is not mandatory but definitely essential and could save you a lot of hassle both at the border and with the IRS

I believe the Canadian retirement Visa is not in effect yet and would really only apply to visits longer than 6 months anyways as we are already entitled to 180 days. But then you can lose your provincial health benefits for longer than 6 months. Also I thought the federal gov't was going to try and restrict retirement benefits also to people who were living out of country

Thank you !!

Canadians require a passport to cross the border.
You are allowed 180 days in the USA per calendar year.
If you are going to the states on a frequent basis
you need to fill out Form 8840. This shows a closer tie
to Canada than the USA. It is for tax purposes only.
If you do not fill out the form each year you "MAY"
be only entitled to 120 days. This form must be sent in
by the end of June each year. You need to fill in each
years number of days for the past three years.

Homeland Security is the department that limits the stay
to 180 days.

The Canadian Snowbird Association has been trying to get
us 240 days per year. This is known as The Canadian Retirement Visa.
There will be certain rules that pertain to getting one.

I have been snowbirding for many years and each year I make sure
I am up to date on all R and R's regarding crossing the border.

The closer connection form is from the US government. There is no better source that that. Read it.

The original information I found for the need to extend the "automatic" 90 day visa came from the Globe and Mail. That is hardly a "random" internet article.

Here is a link from the US government about the 90 visa.

https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/visit/visa-waiver-program.html

Here is a quote from the visa page.

"Overview

The Visa Waiver Program (VWP) enables most citizens or nationals of participating countries* to travel to the United States for tourism or business for stays of 90 days or less without first obtaining a visa, when they meet all requirements explained below."

You need to research this a bit more carefully. Being an Ostrich won't help you if you are turned back at the border.

Freedom polecat wrote:
Maybe go back and visit the border services sites or even the Canadian snowbirds site before quoting or posting a random internet article. You are definitely incorrect.

Did you even bother to read the links?

If you stay 31 days the form is required. Failure to comply may mean they can refuse you entry on your next trip.

It is true we don't require a visa for visits under 90 days. But if you stay 120 days an extension needs to be applied for.

The border folks on both sides have a great deal of power, and discretion. Some times you may run into a "tin pot God" on either side. I think there may be a lot more TPG on the USA side no




Maybe go back and visit the border services sites or even the Canadian snowbirds site before quoting or posting a random internet article. You are definitely incorrect. You will also note under the visa waiver program and enter the link in your link you provided, you will see Canada is not on the list