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- zb39ExplorerI will be there in July. 8th time for us. 3 nights at Gardner to do the Bear tooth and the northern stuff.
3 nights at FB to do the rest. Then 3 night in the Tetons. We stay a couple nights in Cody before coming into YS. - 1stgenfarmboyExplorerUnless you are an avid hiker the Tetons can be seen in 2 days, but Yellowstone demands a lot of time and it is huge.
I say a couple days in the Tetons first then head up to Yellowstone and stay as long as your money and time holds out. - We_ll_SeeExplorerThanks everyone for the replies. Please keep them coming.
- JimK-NYExplorer III have visited Yellowstone numerous times. The park is too big to see conveniently from any one camp area. I often stay a few days at Madison, Norris, Canyon and Mammoth. I rarely bother with Grants or Bay Bridge but I stayed at both several years ago.
My favorite time to visit attractions is 5pm. By then the crowds have thinned and in the Summer there are hours left until sunset. I would not want to drive long distances at night. - dodge_guyExplorer IIThanks for the really good info Richard. will definitely follow it pretty close.
- richardcoxidExplorerSome general information about YNP (some general items apply to GTNP also)
YNP is about 45 miles E/W and about 65 miles N/S (2.2 mil. Acres total). The figure 8 loop road inside the park is about 140 miles around. The lower loop is 96 miles and the upper loop is 70 miles around and yes, it is bigger than the states of Rhode Island and Delaware combined.
Whatever time that you think you will need to see YNP you better double it, or to say it another way is that you will see one half as much in the allotted time. The Bison think that they own the road (they do!) and will slow down the traffic to walking speed or all stop for 1/4 mile or more blocking both directions of travel, the thermal attractions also tie up traffic and with a 5 month long summer tourist season that coincides with a 5 month long road construction season and a 45 mph radar controlled speed limit it will take about a full day to see each loop and then you will only see the main attractions. In addition to the occasional construction delays they will also sometimes close whole sections of road (for uninterrupted night construction) between 10 PM and 8 AM in the morning, if you are running late and get caught at night in the wrong area it CAN be a LONG way around to your CG! (The entrance stations will have current construction information or go on line to check it out)
Note- I have seen on this blog and others about somebody "day tripping" from YNP to GTNP. It is done all the time however, remember this is BIG country, you will be doing a LOT of driving. From the Grant Village visitor center (extreme S/E corner of the lower loop road) to Jackson, WY is about 80 miles with Coulter Bay being about 1/2 way or 40 miles. Then from Grant Village add the distance to your CG it will be a LONG days trip.
Then there is the elevation- YNP ranges from a low at Mammoth- 6239 ft to 7784 ft at Fishing Bridge or higher if you go hiking! Drink plenty of liquids and pace yourself when walking.
I recommend that you get up EARLY, leave the CG and be back by 4 or 6 PM have dinner and be sitting in your recliner drinking a cool one when your neighbor drags himself back to the CG at 8-10 PM. Remember that from mid May to mid July in YNP the sun doesn't set until shortly before 10 PM then there is a long twilight.
Cell Phone Service- Only at the major visitor centers, otherwise spotty.
Clothing- Especially in the early or late season it is not unusual to have a 30 or even the occasional 40 degree temperature change throughout the day. Dress with easily shed layers of clothing. Also dress in bright easily seen clothing. I am sure that we all have been to a sporting event, parade or Disney World etc. and we blink our eyes and our partner/child has disappeared. My DIL was born and raised in HI, you guessed it, every Xmas, b-day or Father's Day I receive a Hawaiian shirt. One of them is black with 4-5 inch dia. bright flowers. Not many of them in Wyoming and in YSNP, that is what I wear. If your partner has on a Violet blouse and a Orange scarf with a Pink hat I guarantee that she will be the only one within the boundaries of either NP. It can save you a few anxious moments.
Water- Now I will have to contradict myself, at the altitude of YNP yes, drink lots of water!HOWEVER, be aware that the flush toilet restrooms are are in the major tourist areas- Mammoth, Canyon, Fishing Bridge, Lake Hotel, Bridge Bay, Grant Village, Old Faithful, Madison Junction etc. The geyser basins and other thermal attractions areas have only pit toilets. I have seen the pit toilet line at the lower Geyser Basin 25 or more feet long (bless the tour buses) So be smart about drinking your water and use the major tourist area R/Rs before leaving the area!
Sun- At YSNPs altitude the sun is intense (uv) have and apply sun screen, wear that old floppy wide brim sun hat, wear sun glasses!
If your luck is like mine Old Faithful will have just erupted when you get there and you will have up to a hour and 10-20 minutes wait for the next one. Tour the O/F geyser basin while waiting for the next eruption. Old Faithful INN is a must see (meals are "OK" also).
We have lived about 110 miles (4739' elevation) from W. Yellowstone, MT since 1964, go there 3-4 times a summer (normally before Memorial Day and after Labor Day) and haven't seen it all of it yet! So don't be discouraged that you didn't have the time to see all of YSNP. Just plan on coming back another time!
I don't mean to scare or discourage you but to give you a heads up as to what to expect! After all there was 4.1 Million visitors in 2015!
When in the Jackson area I highly recommend seeing the Bar J Chuckwagon dinner show! If you go, MAKE RESERVATIONS and BE THERE EARLY TO PICK UP YOUR MEAL TICKETS/SEATING TABLE ASSIGNMENTS! They seat you by when you show up to get your tickets NOT by your reservation number. Tim, their fiddle player has won the "Idaho state old time fiddle contest 7 times and the US open fiddle championship twice". If you decide to go you will sit at picnic type of bench seats/table, they get pretty hard, I recommend that you take along a blanket/pad to fold up to sit on. We day trip it there 2-4 times every summer just to see them! Disclaimer- We have no financial or other interest in the Bar J only that it will be the best $$ value for your money for your trip! Check out their website.
http://www.barjchuckwagon.com - Two_JayhawksExplorer
Two Hands wrote:
Spend four or five days in Yellowstone then move to the Tetons for the rest of your trip.
This is what we will do next trip to that area. We based in West Yellowstone last time and did both and it was just too much driving. YNP is just so large it takes a lot of windshield time to see everything you'll want to see. Next time I want to enjoy the Tetons more and actually base there after leaving YNP. - jalichtyExplorerFor your trip, wanting to stay at one end of Yellowstone so you can see both parks isn't a bad idea. Grant is at the, mostly, southern end of Yellowstone, but from there you can either go to the Old Faithful area or the lake and canyon areas, you just have to turn left or right, basically. Fishing Bridge is centrally located, on the far east side of the Park, but about midway between the south and north entrances. It's quite a trip from Fishing Bridge to the west side of the park where most of the thermal features are located. If you want to stay in one place and not move, I would suggest this is your best option. And, that location is less than an hour from Grand Teton and Jackson Lake. Grant is a nice place to stay, we've stayed there once and really enjoyed it.
We camp and fish out of Colter Bay in Grand Teton National Park and, sometimes, take a day trip to Yellowstone just to look around. So, coming from Yellowstone to Grand Teton would not really be a stretch, in my opinion. If you did decide to stay in Grand Teton, Colter Bay is our favorite spot, close to Jackson Lake, nice general store, marina and a couple of restaurants. They have about 300 dry camping spots in the campground and a number, I don't know how many, full hook-ups in the RV park but reservations at the RV park can be hard to come by at this late date. And, while not totally centrally located, close enough to do day trips and see all of the park you can see from a vehicle. There are a great number of hiking trails in the Park, but remember to take bear spray as the population of Grizzly's has been getting bigger each year. - dodge_guyExplorer II
Bionic Man wrote:
I don't think those that have posted it is OK, and certainly those that suggested staying in West Yellowstone read your whole post. I would guess they were responding on just where to stay in Yellowstone.
IMO, the parks are too big to try to stay in one campground to see both parks. You will spend way too much time driving.
We are doing a trip this year, staying in Gros Ventre in Teton's, and Fishing Bridge in Yellowstone. I don't like the atmosphere of Fishing Bridge, but it is the most centrally located campground. And we won't spend much time in base camp.
Exactly. that's why I chose Fishing Bridge. I couldn't imagine staying on the west side of Yellowstone, then driving to Cody for a day, then back. then to Yellowstone Falls area, then back. all through the same areas. their is so much more to see. I`d rather drive different routes every day so I could see more of Yellowstone.
I did a lot of research with maps and drive times. FB is definitely centrally located. - Bionic_ManExplorerI don't think those that have posted it is OK, and certainly those that suggested staying in West Yellowstone read your whole post. I would guess they were responding on just where to stay in Yellowstone.
IMO, the parks are too big to try to stay in one campground to see both parks. You will spend way too much time driving.
We are doing a trip this year, staying in Gros Ventre in Teton's, and Fishing Bridge in Yellowstone. I don't like the atmosphere of Fishing Bridge, but it is the most centrally located campground. And we won't spend much time in base camp.
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