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I gotta say that this one of the dumber threads I've seen here. This is ONE person who was not contagious at the time, the hospital has a special hazardous waste permit to deal specifically with anything leaving, and people are worried that they are just going to "catch" this? Let's fence off all of Texas and designate it a Leper colony. How's that?

There are so many incurable diseases around it's not funny, and this is curable if caught as has been proven several times already. So what's the paranoia about ?

BarbaraOK wrote:
And where did you get your Ph.D. in virology?

I don't have a Ph.D. in anything, but I can read. I've read a lot about Ebola (over the years before this outbreak and since the current outbreak), because I find it fascinating that something so tiny can kill so effectively and we have no way to stop it. I also am a former student of Biology and know that all types of environmental factors can cause mutations in plants, animals and viruses. This country is full of all sorts of things that can cause mutations. It's not out of the realm of possibility that Ebola could encounter a pollutant of some type that could make it aerosolized (become airborne).

BarbaraOK wrote:
Do you have ANY idea about the type of virus this is and the fact that not viruses act alike.

Actually yes, I do know what type of virus Ebola is; it is a type of Hemorraghic Fever. It is a fever, sometimes high that can cause your body to hemorrhage blood, often from eyes, ears, nose and other orifices. It is not a pleasant virus.

The fact that not all viruses act alike makes them unpredictable. Just because up until now the virus is only contagious when a person shows symptoms doesn't mean that will always be the case. Did I mention that the Texas victim from Liberia vomited before he was put into the ambulance? What happens when the virus encounters an oil stain on the street or some other pollutant?

Have you ever heard of MRSA (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus)? The R stands for resistant because it is a staph infection that over time became resistant to antibiotics through mutations.

BarbaraOK wrote:
If you want something to worry about, how about the THOUSANDS of people who will die of the flu this year because they didn't get a flu vaccination.

Actually, no I don't worry about those people because they made a choice not to get a flu vaccine. They had the option to get a flu vaccine and did not. If they get the flu and die, that's tragic, however it was avoidable. By the way, almost 4,000 people that we know of have died so far from this Ebola outbreak.

There is a difference between someone passing away because they got the flu when they could have had a flu vaccine versus Ebola entering this country when the US Government should not have approved this man a Visa because of his background (no job, no home, had family already in the US) and because he intentionally lied on his exit paper work when he left Liberia. He flew from Liberia to Dulles International then to Dallas/Fort Worth. If I was on one of those flights, I'd be worried.

-Michael

rollingslow wrote:
It's stupid not to stop all flights from any place with ebola. But with our gov so incompitate..Well we'll just have to hope for the best

I certainly agree that out government is "incompitate." but it would be complicated by those who fly from suspect countries thru another country, and then fly to the USA. since my passport gets stamped at random pages throughout, it would be difficult for the screener at customs to determine where in the world I had been on that trip or recently.
bumpy

It's stupid not to stop all flights from any place with ebola. But with our gov so incompitate..Well we'll just have to hope for the best

So in essence everyone is scared because (1) it is new and (2) most people have insufficient science education to understand what the CDC is saying.

First, it isn't new, just it has been confined before roads made it easy for people to move about in Africa. And there are a whole host hemorrhagic fevers out there and in most cases, no vaccine is available but the rate of death falls when modern supportive treatment is given.

Second, unless someone is coming into contact with the bodily fluids without wearing protective equipment, there isn't transmission.

And if someone doesn't wash their hands before eating - well there are a whole host of things that one is putting themselves at risk for, including salmonella and E.coli infections.

But, go ahead and be afraid if that makes you feel better.

Barb

Anyone else see the video of the guy pressure washing the patients virus laden vomitus off the sidewalk outside the home? NO proper disposal, the guy had no protection and now it's sprayed all over for people to walk in and introduce to their own homes! Don't think it can't happen, just takes someone taking their shoes off then eating a cookie!

BarbaraOK wrote:

mgirardo wrote:
It is slightly unsettling to know that a person can fly from Liberia to the US without being put in Quarantine for the 21 days required for the disease to show up. This person was not a US citizen returning home, he was visiting family in the US. Hopefully the disease doesn't get any further.

At present Ebola is only passed through contact with bodily fluids. However, anything could happen to change that.

-Michael

And where did you get your Ph.D. in virology? Do you have ANY idea about the type of virus this is and the fact that not viruses act alike.

If you want something to worry about, how about the THOUSANDS of people who will die of the flu this year because they didn't get a flu vaccination. Or the thousands who will die from drunk/drugged drivers in Texas. Now that is a worry!

Barb

We can only go by the information provided us. The reports are telling us that this virus can only be spread through bodily fluid contact and only when the victim is exhibiting signs of the virus.

As to the other points: Skipping flu vaccines is a matter of choice, roll the dice, pay the price. The vaccines are available, partake or not. Period.

We have laws for people who drink/drug drive. Barring general prohibition of those substances, there is nothing more that can be done. Drink/drug drive, pay the consequences. Your choice.

Exposure to the Ebola virus differs because it is not a choice. I'm not in the sky is falling category, and I'll also try to be aware of methods of prevention, save hermetically sealing myself in my RV/Abode.

Mootpoint wrote:


Someone queried as to why he was let in. Everyone who has posted on here would line up to post a rant on how badly they were treated while travelling abroad if they were subject to the indignity of a screening. Don't kid yourself.

----snip----

It's only a matter of time before it will be available to everyone, so in the mean time.. WASH THOSE HANDS :B

The guy lied on the Liberian departure questionnaire re: being exposed to anyone with the ebola virus. The questionnaire was the only "screening", you know, because people are so trustworthy...

Only a matter of time the medication will be available to everyone? Sorta like when the US has a shortage of the flu vaccine?

My understanding is the medication takes time, a lot of time, to process. If this wasn't the case, the med would have been sent to Liberia in an effort to save thousands of lives. As it was, the two missionaries (?), med workers (?) were given the shots while still in the experimental stage, and not even close to being approved by the FDA.

mgirardo wrote:
It is slightly unsettling to know that a person can fly from Liberia to the US without being put in Quarantine for the 21 days required for the disease to show up. This person was not a US citizen returning home, he was visiting family in the US. Hopefully the disease doesn't get any further.

At present Ebola is only passed through contact with bodily fluids. However, anything could happen to change that.

-Michael

And where did you get your Ph.D. in virology? Do you have ANY idea about the type of virus this is and the fact that not viruses act alike.

If you want something to worry about, how about the THOUSANDS of people who will die of the flu this year because they didn't get a flu vaccination. Or the thousands who will die from drunk/drugged drivers in Texas. Now that is a worry!

Barb