RV'ing at the Naval Station in Key West
Can someone explain to me the procedure for a veteran to get a site in Key West, or is it first come first serve? Jack L
Forum Discussion
Regardless of "DoD classifications ... Military campgrounds are NOT housing, and most of the federal laws put limits on 'continuous' days stay, which are abused. These are recreation facilities ... period.
And correct, not every DOD gets housing allowance, for permanent employees, it's like any other job. But a lot of DOD do when the job is contract and short-term specialty employment. Those are often the ones that use the MCG and keep the funds.
When we arrive at a MCG, and want to use it for its purpose it was intended (originally for AD recreation, and secondary for retired), and DOD workers are filling the campground day after week after month, it's abusing that MCG, no matter how you cut it.
Right, personal opinion that CO 'evolved' into using the MCG as a revenue builder to support other activities (like golf) and each MCG (like other MWR activities) is supposed to support itself. But, it turns out (and this info comes direct from Kings Bay MCG manager) the "extra funds this MCG generates" are taken back into the general MWR fund and used to support other MWR activities that don't support themselves.
Balancing budgets always seems to get manipulated so the users and therefore the supporters of one program lose maintenance and development revenue to other components. I'd like to see how much MCG revenue goes to support the golf course at MacDill, for example.
Anyone know why the Kings Bay MCG (A great campground) was designed and built the way it is?? The sub-base CO at the time it was built was a RV / CAMPER, not a golfer. We happened to camp next to him in Kings Bay some years later, after he retired and began full-timing. SO, he explained the process for the KB camp. That's the only reason I know this info ... direct from the CO.
He also explained that most successful MCG's get the funds drained into other activities. So, the cash cows continue to produce milk, and it often gets diverted - particularly in the more desired areas ... Like Florida camps in winter. MacDill is a nightmare unless you're one of the "returning in crowd" ...
Would make more sense to use MCG funds in successful areas to renovate MCG's in other, less successful areas, so the campers that produce the MCG funds get use in areas that don't generate as much, and maybe upgrade those so eventually more RV'ers might use those and make them more successful on their own.
The only real issue we have - equal use for those that earned the benefit. And we should not be forced to share that benefit with a civilian employee for the purpose of that civilian 'saving money' ... that's not MCG mission.
And correct, not every DOD gets housing allowance, for permanent employees, it's like any other job. But a lot of DOD do when the job is contract and short-term specialty employment. Those are often the ones that use the MCG and keep the funds.
When we arrive at a MCG, and want to use it for its purpose it was intended (originally for AD recreation, and secondary for retired), and DOD workers are filling the campground day after week after month, it's abusing that MCG, no matter how you cut it.
Right, personal opinion that CO 'evolved' into using the MCG as a revenue builder to support other activities (like golf) and each MCG (like other MWR activities) is supposed to support itself. But, it turns out (and this info comes direct from Kings Bay MCG manager) the "extra funds this MCG generates" are taken back into the general MWR fund and used to support other MWR activities that don't support themselves.
Balancing budgets always seems to get manipulated so the users and therefore the supporters of one program lose maintenance and development revenue to other components. I'd like to see how much MCG revenue goes to support the golf course at MacDill, for example.
Anyone know why the Kings Bay MCG (A great campground) was designed and built the way it is?? The sub-base CO at the time it was built was a RV / CAMPER, not a golfer. We happened to camp next to him in Kings Bay some years later, after he retired and began full-timing. SO, he explained the process for the KB camp. That's the only reason I know this info ... direct from the CO.
He also explained that most successful MCG's get the funds drained into other activities. So, the cash cows continue to produce milk, and it often gets diverted - particularly in the more desired areas ... Like Florida camps in winter. MacDill is a nightmare unless you're one of the "returning in crowd" ...
Would make more sense to use MCG funds in successful areas to renovate MCG's in other, less successful areas, so the campers that produce the MCG funds get use in areas that don't generate as much, and maybe upgrade those so eventually more RV'ers might use those and make them more successful on their own.
The only real issue we have - equal use for those that earned the benefit. And we should not be forced to share that benefit with a civilian employee for the purpose of that civilian 'saving money' ... that's not MCG mission.
