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SkiSmuggs
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Aug 18, 2015

2012 Cougar High Country pinbox

When we bought our 299RKS, we had the dealer replace the oem pinbox with a Reese Sidewinder for the 5'7" bed on the F150. Now we have an F350 which sits too high for level towing because the Sidewinder can't be raised because the mount would prevent the turning of the arm. It looks like the best solution would be an oem type pinbox and I am thinking Moryde as a cost effective upgrade solution. Does anyone have a part number for the original Lippert (I think) pinbox so I can use it as a reference?

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  • SkiSmuggs wrote:
    I am on the road and don't have my heavy tools to move the Sidewinder mount up.
    Were there any clearance problems, Tom? The arm sticks straight out instead of angling down like the oem.


    When either dropping the arm/turret or moving the entire pinbox, I'd back the truck's tailgate under and use a floor jack, made it all very manageable for my son and I.

    As to an angle? The arm of the pinbox has always been parallel to the ground, even after pinning and raising it. At a loss for posting pictures on this forum, I've included hyperlinks to Google Photos where I've got them saved. Hope this helps.

    2014 09 Sidewinder Maintenance

    2015 05 Hitch Adjustments Fast forward to last two images to see the raised and pinned hitch. In the tightest of turns of if needing to jackknife, the pinbox can touch the bedrails at just short of 90 degrees. I try not to go there!
  • 700g wrote:
    We have a 2013 Cougar High Country 291rls. The pinbox is a Lippert 1621. Yours was probably the same.

    Thanks! That is what I guessed but wanted confirmation. I might get the Moryde replacement for that for only $50 more.
  • We have a 2013 Cougar High Country 291rls. The pinbox is a Lippert 1621. Yours was probably the same.
  • Thanks for your replies. I had actually had the Sidewinder moved up 2" and moved it back down when I saw it wouldn't pivot. Didn't think to lock it down instead. The R16 is already in its lowest position. Two of the 4 turret bolts sheared yesterday and the arm is at a machine shop to have them removed. I am on the road and don't have my heavy tools to move the Sidewinder mount up.
    Were there any clearance problems, Tom? The arm sticks straight out instead of angling down like the oem.
  • I have the Sidewinder and have an F250 CC with the 6' 8" bed like yours. I think you will need to carefully calculate if you still need the Sidewinder so you clear the cab before you go for a new pin box solution. I elected to raise the trailer using the Lippert Correct Track II Kit since it is a fairly low cost option and I could do it myself. It provides about 2" lift plus provides capability to align the trailer. Other option is to change axles to be under the springs if not already configured that way.
  • If you are considering an OEM pinbox and don't need the pivot of the Sidewinder any more, run two Grade-8 bolts up the back to pin it in place. Remove the wedge and raise the Sidewinder in the trailer mount as high as it will go. Not pivoting, won't matter that the arm is above the "wings" of trailer pinbox mount.

    This is what I did when moving to my long-bed 3500HD. I did that, along with dropping my Reese R16 hitch to the lowest holes. I'm still a bit nose high but pressures and temperatures of front vs back tires (axles) remain equal. I'd like to get individual wheel weights ... if I could just find those type "plate" scales I see DPS use on the side of the road.

    Hope this helps.